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The Words spoken by Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

Yahcubs777

Active Member
This is Matthew probably a Jewish Christian writing to other Jewish Christians, so they are probably very well conversant with Leviticus and are catching his allusion to Leviticus 26 which says "If you are careful to keep my commands etc." then "I will grant peace in your land...and the sword will not pass through your country." He's not actually talking about them killing each other which would be unthinkable for them. Keep in mind, too, that 'Earth' is Israel to them, not a planet or a continent. It may even refer to the tribes scattered wherever they are. They aren't talking about planets or continents, so the division is in Israel itself over this decision. I think its a choice about circumcising new converts who aren't Jewish, but whether I'm wrong about that or not Matthew alludes to Leviticus 26, he's not talking about them killing each other, and its a decision that will divide families. He's also implying that something is not right in Israel, or there would not be a sword but peace instead. Remember also that later in the story when the guards come to arrest Jesus he makes sure that Peter has a sword, just as a prop, just Peter and only one sword. That sword is a prophecy prop, like the time Ezekiel lies upon his side. With the sword Jesus is making a statement alluding to Leviticus 26.

The reason it doesn't conflict with 1John is that its not actually suggesting real hate or violence but this pivotal disagreement which Jesus implies has come because of a failure in some way to keep the Torah. The Torah has in some way not been kept, so the world is out of balance. Strife will result.



1Kings made me scratch my head, but its not authoritative. Its in the canon to learn from, and some things in it are good and some demonstrate bad on purpose. Prophets shouldn't lie, but there is a story here about what happens when they do. Who is to say whether these prophets of the LORD actually lied? It could just be a story, but its here for our benefit. Its like eating watermelon. When I eat watermelon I spit out the seeds. I don't force myself to eat them though they're part of the melon. The seeds and the rind are both important even though they are not tasty.

Prophets of Baal are not prophets of the LORD and say it, so that does not confuse me.

Nimrod (mentioned in Genesis) is not well explained in the canon, however some people say he is this or that. There are legends about him, but I don't know the legends. A 'Mighty hunter before the LORD' is not necessarily a compliment. It likely is a derogatory phrase. Elsewhere in Genesis when Jacob contends with his brother Esau, the LORD chooses the poor hunter (Jacob with feminine features) who is second born instead of the good hunter (Esau who has manly features) who is firstborn. By calling Nimrod a 'Mighty hunter before the LORD' the author of Genesis is probably singling him out as undesireable. Jews are herdsmen, and they aren't allowed to eat hunted game. Its considered unkosher. The implication is more than just that Nimrod is a hunter but that he is somehow displeasing the LORD.

Great. You are not a literal minded person to the point that we can converse. And you also are able to see how things are linked together; how the scriptures interlock. The only thing that is a hindrance is the natural mind. This passage is speaking of the Word of GOD being the sword, not a literal sword. And that there are people born into the family that are not able to receive HIS WORD. Put simply, they are tares. Just as Jesus His Pre-Eminence in speaking to the pharisees said:

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

And in Matthew 13:24-30 HE revealed it in a certain parable.

I know its not speaking of killing each other, but that it means that households will contain tares in them... This is huge because HE is speaking to Jews who are the children of the kingdom. Simply this means: There are those born in your familes, that I did not send into the womb of the mother. For GOD is the giver of children.

Yes, nimrod was a wizard, and what he hunted was souls. The whole thing with Jacob and Esau, was the same as the parable wheats and tares. Jacob is a child of the kingdom, Esau is a tare. And it happened that way for a reason. A tare cannot become a wheat, and a wheat cannot become a tare. They are determined by where their Spirit being came from. This is another deep revelation. Put simply, there is the lambs book of life, and it contains the names of all the children of the kingdom from the foundation of the world. All names were there before Cain and abel were born. Which means there are those whose names are not there. Those people are tares. And tares can be born into any nation. Children of the kingdom are sent by GOD, tares are not.
This is why the Word came: Jacob I loved, Esau i hated. And that whole life story was revealing something about the recovering of the stolen birth right. But i won't go into detail now about it.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
You are good student of the Word. Great. Then can i go a little deeper? Let us start with a question.

There was an event that took place, and was written of, regarding Moses and Zipporah regarding the covenant of circumcision.

21 And the Lord said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

24 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him.

25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.

26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

This event is what led to Moses putting her away, divorcing her, and remarrying. And his brother Aaron and his sister Miriam were not in agreement with that, and were judging Moses. And the Word of the LORD came saying: If there be a Prophet among you, i will make myself known to him in a vision and speak unto him in adream, , but Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house, to him will I speak face to face.

1And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 2And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3(Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.

6And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

7My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.

8With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

This is a secret that I am about to reveal.

What led to Moses divorcing Zipporah, is the fact that Moses had understood where that confession came from. And it revealed to Moses the kind of woman that she was. Meaning, she was an occultic woman. Her father, jethro a priest of an occult. Who was the priest of GOD if not Moses? What was Jethro to GOD? There was no one besides Moses who GOD made HIMSELF known to by the burning bush, and who GOD sent to deliver the people out of Egypt. Is it that Jethro was a priest of the GOD of creation? No, Jethro had his religion, and it was called Azazeal.

Azazeal is the belief that one can evade consequences for their actions, by having a scape goat to take all the blame of the person, and anything that was destined to happen to the person will now happen to the black goat, so that the man or woman can walk away free of their consequences, that the Law of justification should hold against them. For example, there is the Law of justification operating in the earth which the GOD set, and ordered. If a Man should kill a man, that man will also be killed. They wrote it in the bible saying: An eye for an eye.. This Law treats everyone as equals; jews and gentiles alike; it is not partial. And it is Just.

So what a priest of this religion does, is he dresses up a black goat with all the persons belongings, and sends the scape goat to go one way, and tells the person to go the other way. This is one example. You will see in the book of Daniel, that Nebuchadnezzar has his tree completely hewn down... This will not make any sense to a person that has not any knowledge of the enemies of the mankind race, and what they do ritualistically... Their practices which are an abomination. This is very deep to explain. But here is an example. A witch or wizard will target someone by going after their tree kind. Every man has this tree kind. And a witch or wizard cannot attack one of their own. That simply means that a tare cannot be targeted by witchcraft.

One thing that they will do to save someone from death coming from them is they will discover the persons tree kind, then they will cut out part of the tree at the same height of the person. They will dress that tree with the belongings of the person, and they will bury it as if they have just buried the person. This is what they do when a client comes to them after say murdering another, to avoid that law of justification.

The Children of the kingdom have not understood their enemy at all. They claim everything satan and still do not know what that satan is. Lucifer is who they refer to as Satan, which is not exactly wrong. But Satanism is a religion. And its not the worship of lucifer. Lucifer is a satanist. lucifer has his religion which he practices. You can call their religion a worship of nature.

Well i really don't want to continue to share these deep revelations this way...

That sacrificial system that was headed by Aaron is a system built on error. And it was allowed because Aaron represented the Word in that church age. Moses the Law, Aaron the word, and Miriam the Prophet. Just as there is Shedrac, Mishac, and Abednigo who did not bow to the golden image. And then there is Moses, Jesus His Pre-Eminence, and Elijah. And Finally, James, Peter and John... All of these is the Law, the Word and the Prophet in their time period, which is the kingdom authority; the constution of the kingdom of heaven in the earth. At the time Moses was on his journey, and leading the people, Aaron represented the word, not Moses. Moses represented the Law. Miriam the prophet-ess. This foundation is faulty too. How can the one GOD sent be the Law, but not the Word?

Aaron was the head of that system, and that was a mistake on Moses part. Moses should have handled it all. His father-in laws advice was not good advice... This is why i asked what GOD is he a priest of? For King David said:

1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

There is alot of interpretations given as to why Moses was not allowed into Jericho. They wrote that GOD decided he should die. Then later it is written: It is the Will of GOD that none should perish. So then what about Moses?

Get thee up into this mountain Abarim, unto mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab, that is over against Jericho; and behold the land of Canaan, which I give unto the children of Israel for a possession: 50And die in the mount whither thou goest up, and be gathered unto thy people; as Aaron thy brother died in mount Hor, and was gathered unto his people: 51Because ye trespassed against me among the children of Israel at the waters of MeribahKadesh, in the wilderness of Zin; because ye sanctified me not in the midst of the children of Israel. 52Yet thou shalt see the land before thee; but thou shalt not go thither unto the land which I give the children of Israel.

This is where GOD revealed a serious situation. Moses grudged greatly because of the stiff necked people that he was leading. It was not easy for the Great Moses to deal with. And the wandering in the wilderness was revealing that Moses was not bringing out the accurate revelations from GOD. A wilderness place is any place where the Word of GOD is not. This is a spiritual definition, not a lliteral one. Its also because of what Moses was defining. Anyway, the waters from the rock is the revelations from GOD, concrete revelations from GOD. And it was brought up again by Jesus His Pre-Eminence after HE revealed that Apostle Peter understood HIS identiy by Revelation.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

The Rock is not on Apostle Peters name, or his bones, but on Revelations about who the GOD is! Revelations about who the Son of GOD is. Revelations about who the Son of Man is. And so on. HE started by asking them: Who do they say that I am? Who does thou sayt that i am? That rock which Moses striked, was revealing that he did not dispense the revelations GOD was giving him. That was the reason for "speak to it"... That wasn't about belief that his words would cause the rock to give water, but that his words are supposed to contain Revelations about the GOD which are accurate. The earth is a rock. And what brought forth the earth is water.

So there is alot that was written, that has waited for the day that the one GOD sent would be throwing light on it all, from Enoch all the way to Apostle Peter, and then also having his own message to share to the people to prepare her for the 2nd coming. And this is among them.
As you can see I am not a Muslim. I have a Christian background, mostly charismatic and then later some non-trinitarian and then later a less restrictive Christianity, no longer worried about what head knowledge each person has. I don't agree with separating Christian from Christian over who thinks this or that. Head knowledge is just like the dream of wealth, but actions are wealth. It is challenging to believe this, so I doubt it sometimes. Its the right thing I think, the path a Christian ought to walk; but only a good man can walk such a path. I am no such good person but am only a beginner in doing good. Many times a righteous man may be deceived, but he can get back up. He may fail repeatedly, too. Add spoonfuls to a bowl and the bowl can be filled even if by spoonfuls.

I actually think this material about Zipporah is probably too advanced for us to discuss. It would be fun, but maybe the conversation is getting a little long. I fear I may become irritable and embarrass myself.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
It doesn't. That's just your religion. Not sure why religious on your practice needs to speak for all people. Life just doesn't work that way.

GOD is not my religion. I have no religion. GOD is above all religion, all of creation. My perceptions do not determine HIM.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
As you can see I am not a Muslim. I have a Christian background, mostly charismatic and then later some non-trinitarian and then later a less restrictive Christianity, no longer worried about what head knowledge each person has. I don't agree with separating Christian from Christian over who thinks this or that. Head knowledge is just like the dream of wealth, but actions are wealth. It is challenging to believe this, so I doubt it sometimes. Its the right thing I think, the path a Christian ought to walk; but only a good man can walk such a path. I am no such good person but am only a beginner in doing good. Many times a righteous man may be deceived, but he can get back up. He may fail repeatedly, too. Add spoonfuls to a bowl and the bowl can be filled even if by spoonfuls.

I actually think this material about Zipporah is probably too advanced for us to discuss. It would be fun, but maybe the conversation is getting a little long. I fear I may become irritable and embarrass myself.

I mean that is your choice. As you can see i am not a novice in these things. This is advanced for sure, i understand. But its not at the height that we are currently at by the revelations coming out in the earth today. We have reached a higher level. This revelation is like year 4-5 level of primary school. We are in say the 8th grade now in high school in terms of the height of revelations that are being dispensed.

RIghteous living is great, i am not against it. But the issue with it is that it cannot give you ever lasting life. As a man said to Jesus His Pre-Eminence. Good master, what shall i do to inherit eternal life. And Jesus His Pre-Eminence replied:

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

This is an important event. The Man said he has kept the law from his youth and wondered what he lacked.
Jesus HIs Pre-Eminence replied: If thou wilt be perfect.

That perfect is speaking of something greater than doing good, or obeying the laws of Moses, but transfiguration in life. The man asked: What shall he do to inherit eternal life.
And this is actually linked with John 3, when Nicodemus, a pharisee comes by night and notice that nicodemus did not ask a question. But Jesus His Pre-Eminence starting saying: Ye must be born again. This was a continuation of the message HE taught the man. That is where the question was asked.

The issue has always been this mortal nature, which is actually the sin nature, and the life force of it is never lasting life. You can't be perfect and remain in mortality.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
That is actually why i do it. Catholics call each other that, but could not give that to the GOD they claim to worship? We are supposed to hallow the name of GOD, what they are doing is praising themselves.

Buddhist use the same phrase pre eminence to their priests, and I just said that since you dont use a sectarian dismissal to this argument.

Maybe this is besides the point you were making in your post, but its just a curious thing to me. Goldsmiths use this word pre eminence to show that what ever Gold he is quoting is better than the rest. That is pre eminence. Its good to refer to humans, but not to God.

Yet again, its your prerogative.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Prior to that, he also says that there is only one that is good, and tells the guy not to call him good. He tells you not to even call him good, but you call him "pre eminence", and you call him God.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
Buddhist use the same phrase pre eminence to their priests, and I just said that since you dont use a sectarian dismissal to this argument.

Maybe this is besides the point you were making in your post, but its just a curious thing to me. Goldsmiths use this word pre eminence to show that what ever Gold he is quoting is better than the rest. That is pre eminence. Its good to refer to humans, but not to God.

Yet again, its your prerogative.

It is written in the bible, that Jesus (His Pre-Eminence) has pre-eminence in all things.

If that is written, then that verse is saying that HE Is GOD. For who can have pre-eminence over the GOD?

Now i will explain the reason in full.

The Pope claims to be the vicar of the Son of GOD in the earth, yet he doesn't know that the title given to the Son of GOD is "His Eminence"...
And that Son of GOD, the only begotten of the GOD, is Father Adam His Eminence.

As i said previously, the bible states that Jesus (His Pre-Eminence) has pre-eminence in all things. So how can that be the Son of GOD too? They will try to say because the Son of GOD is GOD, but it only shows their confusion. They seem to think that sonship is not genetic. In a world where parents give birth to a son or daughter, they deny that as being what the Son of GOD is. Father Adam was not birthed by any woman, that should have led them to the conlusion that he was birthed by the GOD. We know Mother Eve was birthed by Father Adam...

So Pre-Eminence is saying that HE is the Father of Adam... Jesus His Pre-Eminence coded it when HE said: Before Abraham I AM. The Abraham HE was speaking of is Father Adam, who is the principal Ancestor of the mankind race; the Abraham (which means father of many) of the Mankind Race. But the people thought HE meant their Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because they did not know about Father Adam His Eminence.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
Prior to that, he also says that there is only one that is good, and tells the guy not to call him good. He tells you not to even call him good, but you call him "pre eminence", and you call him God.

That was not written well. How does it make sense to not call any man good? If that is the case, no one has listened because everyone has called someone else good in their life. This "good" was actually the man calling HIM Holy. And in another place, HE said: Don't call any man father... So what about your biological father? Should you not call him father? This is where HE revealed what the catholics would do. HE warned us to call no man, Holy Father.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
WORDS OF JESUS:

Paraphrasing

1. Honor with lips, not heart Matthew 15:8

2. Teaching commandments of men (not God) Matthew 15:9

3. Jews is be saved John 22

4. Worship God in spirit and truth John 23 (remember, thou shalt not kill....yet war and torture)(take care of God's environment, the poor, the sick). Do we lie about God being loving? Do we lie about evolution and DNA? Do we lie to hide molesting priests?

5. Can't fake (many try....example: Reverend Jim Bakker and Tammy Bay Fakker).

6. Revelations (which said not to attack Babylon, Iraq, but defied God and did anyway). Furthermore, prophets of God, in modern times, warned not to attack Iraq, and everyone ignored them. I suppose that Christ will be ignored in his 2nd coming, and likely murdered again. How many times will he have to come back?

7. In his image (flawed? angry?)

8. Thanking God for what they have (but maybe God is not about assets?)

9. Begs for bread, given stone (a lot of homelessness now). Could God pose as homeless?

10. life is more than meat, body more than raiment (matters of the spirit)

11. Birds eat but don't farm

12. Thinking doesn't cause physical growth

13. God provides clothes...men of faith must realize this

14. Seek heaven and righteousness of God (was it righteous to murder all but Noah and kin?)

15. Thank God for His wine and bread (which isn't wine and bread but spiritual sustinence), which is more precious than perishables.

16. Don't want to say things about God out of ignorance. But what about ignorance of evolution?

17. Question God out of ignorance of scriptures (which tell you that he is God).



It is not the words of the bible that cause problems. It is ignoring them. Examle, today we have wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, hoards of homeless, huge debt, COVID, fires, droughts, etc. We were warned, but defied God.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
Are you saying that verse is in Error? You quoted two verses following. Please confirm.

i am saying that it did not say exactly what Jesus His Pre-Eminence said. Whether that is by deisgn, or by mistranslations, it is true. Now you can see how it makes much more sense. Whether you agree or not is up to you.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
WORDS OF JESUS:

Paraphrasing

1. Honor with lips, not heart Matthew 15:8

2. Teaching commandments of men (not God) Matthew 15:9

3. Jews is be saved John 22

4. Worship God in spirit and truth John 23 (remember, thou shalt not kill....yet war and torture)(take care of God's environment, the poor, the sick). Do we lie about God being loving? Do we lie about evolution and DNA? Do we lie to hide molesting priests?

5. Can't fake (many try....example: Reverend Jim Bakker and Tammy Bay Fakker).

6. Revelations (which said not to attack Babylon, Iraq, but defied God and did anyway). Furthermore, prophets of God, in modern times, warned not to attack Iraq, and everyone ignored them. I suppose that Christ will be ignored in his 2nd coming, and likely murdered again. How many times will he have to come back?

7. In his image (flawed? angry?)

8. Thanking God for what they have (but maybe God is not about assets?)

9. Begs for bread, given stone (a lot of homelessness now). Could God pose as homeless?

10. life is more than meat, body more than raiment (matters of the spirit)

11. Birds eat but don't farm

12. Thinking doesn't cause physical growth

13. God provides clothes...men of faith must realize this

14. Seek heaven and righteousness of God (was it righteous to murder all but Noah and kin?)

15. Thank God for His wine and bread (which isn't wine and bread but spiritual sustinence), which is more precious than perishables.

16. Don't want to say things about God out of ignorance. But what about ignorance of evolution?

17. Question God out of ignorance of scriptures (which tell you that he is God).



It is not the words of the bible that cause problems. It is ignoring them. Examle, today we have wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, hoards of homeless, huge debt, COVID, fires, droughts, etc. We were warned, but defied God.

You claimed Jesus was given the Title "His Eminence". It may very well be, but which verse gives him that title?
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
WORDS OF JESUS:

Paraphrasing

1. Honor with lips, not heart Matthew 15:8

2. Teaching commandments of men (not God) Matthew 15:9

3. Jews is be saved John 22

4. Worship God in spirit and truth John 23 (remember, thou shalt not kill....yet war and torture)(take care of God's environment, the poor, the sick). Do we lie about God being loving? Do we lie about evolution and DNA? Do we lie to hide molesting priests?

5. Can't fake (many try....example: Reverend Jim Bakker and Tammy Bay Fakker).

6. Revelations (which said not to attack Babylon, Iraq, but defied God and did anyway). Furthermore, prophets of God, in modern times, warned not to attack Iraq, and everyone ignored them. I suppose that Christ will be ignored in his 2nd coming, and likely murdered again. How many times will he have to come back?

7. In his image (flawed? angry?)

8. Thanking God for what they have (but maybe God is not about assets?)

9. Begs for bread, given stone (a lot of homelessness now). Could God pose as homeless?

10. life is more than meat, body more than raiment (matters of the spirit)

11. Birds eat but don't farm

12. Thinking doesn't cause physical growth

13. God provides clothes...men of faith must realize this

14. Seek heaven and righteousness of God (was it righteous to murder all but Noah and kin?)

15. Thank God for His wine and bread (which isn't wine and bread but spiritual sustinence), which is more precious than perishables.

16. Don't want to say things about God out of ignorance. But what about ignorance of evolution?

Wow. Someone who understands my speech. Thou must be a child of the kingdom! The fact that you understood all these things tells me you have some spiritual insight. Thou must be a seeker of the GOD. There are some corrections. Please allow me to throw some more light on some things you have said.

17. Question God out of ignorance of scriptures (which tell you that he is God).



It is not the words of the bible that cause problems. It is ignoring them. Examle, today we have wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, hoards of homeless, huge debt, COVID, fires, droughts, etc. We were warned, but defied God.

I cannot say who is was a Prophet and who was not in the last 2000 years. That is not my place as I am not a Prophet. I can only tell you that which I have known by Revelation.

10 is spot on. That is surely what HE is teaching them. But that there is also the sustenance, the food given by the GOD that the Spirit eats, and that is HIS Word. When i said I thank GOD for HIS bread and wine, and i am talking about HIS Word. Thats Great that you understood that.

11. Evolution is ignorance yes, but it is more than that; it is an abomination both in heaven and in the earth. Evolution theory did not start in the earth.

7. In HIS image is speaking about the very physical body that they had before the fall. In the fall, that physical body was altered, and became mortal for procreation to be possible.

8. Spot on again. When we concern ourselves with that, and especially in prayer, we are questioning the Fatherhood of the GOD. And it shows that we haven't begun to seek the kingdom, nor have we a desire to.

12. This "Which of you by thinking can add one cubit to your stature, was pointing to the anatomy of the Celestial immortal body; the transfigured body, which Isaiah said the bed is too short to lie on talking about the mortal body. The Spirit Being has its exact size, shape, and definite anatomy, which is housed by the immortal body, and no cubit can be added to that immortal body. The Temple was supposed to define the body that also has a definite shape, anatomy, and size, speaking of the transfigured body now, not the mortal one. For all mortals come in different shapes and sizes.

2. 2 is an expose, revealing that they were not teaching the accurate Word of GOD.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
You claimed Jesus was given the Title "His Eminence". It may very well be, but which verse gives him that title?

No, i said Adam is "His Eminence"... I said Jesus HIs Pre-Eminence is the GOD and Father of Adam. That is the reason for "Pre-Eminence", which means before Adam I AM.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Then it was by design. Who was it that chose the books that would be included, and which church gave the people access to those scriptures?

Firstly, you claimed it maybe a wrong translation, so when asked for "YOUR TRANSLATION" you respond with another question about who canonised the book etc. Its not relevant to the question.

Nevertheless, are you claiming that Gospel of Matthew was the wrong choice in the canon?

Please confirm.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
Okay. You said "the Bible gives a title to Jesus as Pre-Eminence".

Which verse?

Not that they gave HIM that title, i said that they wrote HE has Pre-Eminence in all things.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
 
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