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Death,Why is it so Scary?

Death comes in its own time by degeneration of human / animal organs. Merit or sin has nothing to do with it. Those who sinned (acted against humans norms) have lived long lives.

In reality what you say has no meaning in the words of the living God, Gods laws are what convicts man of sin,
Why would God create man to die or animals for that matter, Most religions not Christian/Jewish are based on man made sayings and human wisdom, God is active in the Jewish faith and the Christian is the part of the Jewish faith in the new covenant. To be honest without God no one has a real or true religion.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
You need to remember that God told Adam if he ate the fruit he would die,
Do you think what happened after really reflects what you are professing or suggesting?
If Adam was to return to the dust and none existence. Why then would man need saving?
If you stopped sinning under the Covenant with Moses then you could be saved with the sacrifice. But it requires you to live the rest of your life that way.We die because flesh is fallen. As with Adam denied the right to eat from the tree of life and live in a fallen state. His actions caused mankind to be denied the right of living forever by the tree of life because all mankind born of fallen flesh.
You see the evidence shows that someone had to die for the sins of the world. Not just the Jews but Gentiles too.

Thank you for your reply, and yes God told Adam if he ate the forbidden fruit he would die - Genesis 2:17
And law-breaker Adam did die within that 'thousand-year day' time frame - Genesis 5:5

Man needs 'saving' (rescuing / delivering) from the grave.
Because of fallen father Adam we can't stop sinning; because we sin we die.
We can't save oneself from the grave nor save anyone else from the grave.
Because sinless Jesus died faithful he can save / resurrect from the grave - Revelation 1:18.
Only sinless Jesus was able to keep the Constitution of the Mosaic Law for ancient Israel without flaw.
Thus, Jesus ransom covers all - 1 John 1:7
However, Not all will end up following Jesus, so that is why Matthew 20:28 says Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say all.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The answer is so simple. If death was not scary, everyone would be killing themselves the first time things got tough.
Sometimes the roughest roads will end up with the Best view. This doesn't happen if all those rough roads are avoided.That's what I see. It's very clear.

The ^above^ reminded me when a comic said, ' everybody wants to go to Heaven but No one wants to die to get there.'

Apparently the narrow cramped road Jesus said to stay on is a rough road - Matthew chapter 7.

People might think they want to go to Heaven because they are taught it is either: heavenly bliss or forever fire.
Whereas Jesus taught about an earthly future. Humble meek people inheriting Earth - Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11.
The time coming when ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth - 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
In other words, ' everlasting life ' on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
So, if you don't have the desire to ' go to Heaven ', so to speak, then your hope is earthly, or to live enjoying life forever on a beautiful paradisical Earth as described in Isaiah 35th chapter.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
What you have written means nothing in the great scheme of things.Would you care to go further with your comments, Thank you.
Ok, I just read your comment. Adam was not born like you and I, right? Neither was Eve. Perhaps we can start there.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
That is a nice question, and science is presently grappling with that question. Perhaps the expansion of space creates energy. Positive energy along with negative energy. The four fundamental forces and gravity, matter and anti-matter. The answer will only be available in future. People can certainly abort that search with "Goddidit", as they have been doing all along. Zero-energy universe - Wikipedia

But what causes the expansion of space. According to the Bible God created the expansion - Jeremiah 10:12
I find God sends forth His spirit and things are created - Psalms 104:30
Created things come from God so that would be both the positive energy and the negative energy, etc.
Who yet knows but possibly God could use some anti-matter at Armageddon to stop Earth from being ruined.
We do know the executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
It is OK to make a claim, but for the claim to be believed, it should be supported by evidence. Do not make claims without evidence................
That is the habit that you people have - making claims without evidence, 'Emperor's new clothes'.
To me the supported evidence is: the on-going existence of God's Book.
Do you know of anyone who has Not heard of the Bible _________
Over the many centuries enemies from both without and within have tried to destroy the Bible.
If it were Not from God it would have been long gone.
Unlike the 'Emperor's new clothes' people earth wide can see and have tangible copies of Scripture.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why is death so scary to many? Are you afraid of dying? Why or why not?
Is your life scary? The death is just another part of your life. We hope that death for you is not scary. But, just be a friend to God (The Good) and you will learn to fear nothing.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Ah, death scares you! It does not scare me. It does not scare me because I do not have the false hope that I can prolonging this life.
Yipes, it is Not a false hope because you can end your life any time you wish.
God forces No one to prolong his life.
We are all free to act responsibly toward God or Not.
The ' or Not ' part can lead to No prolonging of one's life.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
To me the supported evidence is: the on-going existence of God's Book.
Do you know of anyone who has Not heard of the Bible _________
Over the many centuries enemies from both without and within have tried to destroy the Bible.
If it were Not from God it would have been long gone.
Unlike the 'Emperor's new clothes' people earth wide can see and have tangible copies of Scripture.
Yes, and it's so detailed but one must have God's spirit to truly understand it. As in the expression, "Get it...")
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
In reality what you say has no meaning in the words of the living God, Gods laws are what convicts man of sin,
Why would God create man to die or animals for that matter, Most religions not Christian/Jewish are based on man made sayings and human wisdom, God is active in the Jewish faith and the Christian is the part of the Jewish faith in the new covenant. To be honest without God no one has a real or true religion.
Who told you that there is any God or Allah? What is the evidence for this? Humans are the result of chemical interaction and evolution over a period of four billion years. Who told you that a God or Allah created man? I do not see much wisdom in that. It is contrary to what science haws found. I hope you have heard of Buddhism and Jainism. These religions do not accept existence of any God. Even Hinduism does not mind if someone is an atheist.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
To me the supported evidence is: the on-going existence of God's Book.
The Torah:
"The majority of Biblical scholars believe that the written books were a product of the Babylonian captivity (c. 6th century BCE), based on earlier written sources and oral traditions, and that it was completed with final revisions during the post-Exilic period (c. 5th century BCE)."
Torah - Wikipedia

The Gospels:
"They were probably written between AD 66 and 110. All four were anonymous (the modern names were added in the 2nd century), almost certainly none were by eyewitnesses, and all are the end-products of long oral and written transmission."

Christian Bible:
"In the 4th century a series of synods produced a list of texts equal to the 39, 46, 51, or 54-book canon of the Old Testament and to the 27-book canon of the New Testament that would be subsequently used to today, most notably the Synod of Hippo in 393 CE."

I do not see Wikipedia mentioning that any of the books were written by God or Allah.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Yipes, it is Not a false hope because you can end your life any time you wish. God forces No one to prolong his life.
Your fables and threats are of no value to me as you do not have any evidence or proof for them. This is a first Century Christian burial. Do you think this person will rise up and get a new life:

burial2.jpg
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Is your life scary? The death is just another part of your life. We hope that death for you is not scary. But, just be a friend to God (The Good) and you will learn to fear nothing.
That is a very interesting question: "Is life scary"? For some people it is. Because -- they fear bad things will happen, and sometimes rightly so. Most likely that is why people wear seat belts. But as for the fear of death, that comes at a fairly early age, and it remains as far as I am concerned. However, it's good to know what the Bible says about death. Few people really want to die. I'm thinking that those unhappy individuals who commit suicide must realize they aren't going to suffer after they die. But! at www.jw.org, there are many articles about death, what it means, and that God is going to do away with death some day.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Yes, and it's so detailed but one must have God's spirit to truly understand it. As in the expression, "Get it...")
Besides God's spirit: prayer, Scripture, and good association.
We can start to "Get it...." by the use of a comprehensive concordance because it puts the Bible in alphabetical order for us by topic or subject arrangement. We can see cross-reference verses and passages subject by subject.
Since the Bible is Not written ABC as a dictionary is we need to take one subject or topic at a time and see what all the Bible writers had to say on one thing at a time, this helps us to start to get a picture of what the Bible says.
For example: the word kingdom. In Scripture we are speaking about government. (Daniel 2:44)
Man's governments or kingdoms compared to God's kingdom, His government in the hands of Christ Jesus.
We find God's kingdom, or government, is the threaded theme of the Bible from Genesis though Revelation.
God's kingdom was the theme of Jesus' teaching according to Luke 4:43.
So, little by little referring to Scripture on one subject at a time would be using the same logical reasoning on the Scriptures as Jesus used when he responded to questions.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Your fables and threats are of no value to me as you do not have any evidence or proof for them. This is a first Century Christian burial. Do you think this person will rise up and get a new life:.........................

Well, I must admit I never heard of anyone referring to being resurrected as being a threat or threatened.
Besides Christian burial there are pre-Christian burials ( Egypt for example ) - John 3:13
ALL the people mentioned in Hebrews chapter 11 were pre-Christian people.
ALL the people who were blown up by bombs never had a burial, or dead people eaten by fish.
In other words, the old physical has nothing to do with being restored via resurrection.
It is Not anything physical, but that the dead are in God's memory or book of life.
In Scripture Jesus was given the keys to unlock death and the grave - Revelation 1:18; 1 Corinthians 15:26.
To me, without a resurrection hope (restored back to life) there is absolutely No point to any religion.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
The ^above^ reminded me when a comic said, ' everybody wants to go to Heaven but No one wants to die to get there.'

Apparently the narrow cramped road Jesus said to stay on is a rough road - Matthew chapter 7.

People might think they want to go to Heaven because they are taught it is either: heavenly bliss or forever fire.
Whereas Jesus taught about an earthly future. Humble meek people inheriting Earth - Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11.
The time coming when ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth - 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
In other words, ' everlasting life ' on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
So, if you don't have the desire to ' go to Heaven ', so to speak, then your hope is earthly, or to live enjoying life forever on a beautiful paradisical Earth as described in Isaiah 35th chapter.


Given enough lives and lessons, one reaches a point where the physical time-based causal universe is no longer needed. At this point no one will choose to live within it's restrictions. On the other hand, one can always choose to visit in order that someone else might understand.

I wonder how many are strong enough to choose this form of Unconditional Love. On the other hand, many are with us today experiencing great adversity just to merely point the way.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The Torah:
"The majority of Biblical scholars believe that the written books were a product of the Babylonian captivity (c. 6th century BCE), based on earlier written sources and oral traditions, and that it was completed with final revisions during the post-Exilic period (c. 5th century BCE)."
Torah - Wikipedia
The Gospels:
"They were probably written between AD 66 and 110. All four were anonymous (the modern names were added in the 2nd century), almost certainly none were by eyewitnesses, and all are the end-products of long oral and written transmission."
Christian Bible:
"In the 4th century a series of synods produced a list of texts equal to the 39, 46, 51, or 54-book canon of the Old Testament and to the 27-book canon of the New Testament that would be subsequently used to today, most notably the Synod of Hippo in 393 CE."
I do not see Wikipedia mentioning that any of the books were written by God or Allah.

Apparently Wikipedia, so to speak, never read 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
God is the Author because Scripture is ' God's inspired ' according to 2nd Timothy 3:16-17.
In other words, the Bible writers were God's secretary, God's pen men with God being the actual Author.

As far as the 4th century goes, the so-called Church (Christendom) merely recognized that the 66 books of Bible canon were the authoritative 'Word' from God.
So, Bible canon was established early on the stage, so the 'church' merely testified to what was already there.
Thus, it is the ancient manuscripts that support Bible canon, and why the apocryphal books simply exclude themselves being out of harmony with the harmonious '66' Bible books.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Bible is not a science book. What Bible says has no value in science.
Bible is also Not a math book, nor a cooking book, etc.
Who says the Bible has to have value in science, however I see nothing to contradict known science.
Science doesn't teach morals, morals come from Scripture.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Besides God's spirit: prayer, Scripture, and good association.
We can start to "Get it...." by the use of a comprehensive concordance because it puts the Bible in alphabetical order for us by topic or subject arrangement. We can see cross-reference verses and passages subject by subject.
Since the Bible is Not written ABC as a dictionary is we need to take one subject or topic at a time and see what all the Bible writers had to say on one thing at a time, this helps us to start to get a picture of what the Bible says.
For example: the word kingdom. In Scripture we are speaking about government. (Daniel 2:44)
Man's governments or kingdoms compared to God's kingdom, His government in the hands of Christ Jesus.
We find God's kingdom, or government, is the threaded theme of the Bible from Genesis though Revelation.
God's kingdom was the theme of Jesus' teaching according to Luke 4:43.
So, little by little referring to Scripture on one subject at a time would be using the same logical reasoning on the Scriptures as Jesus used when he responded to questions.
Yes, agreed. It is necessary to study and respond, if possible, to God's will. We know Pharaoh did not respond, he was blocked from responding positively to Moses imploring. I, too, was also thinking about Jesus teaching. He reasoned with people. He answered questions, reasoning with them.
 
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