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Equanimity

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
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In perusing the religious debates forum, it appears that some members wear their emotions on their sleeves, so to speak. Religious debates on RF range from passionate to downright hostile.

Do you feel you can approach a religious debate with equanimity?

Is there value in doing so?

Why or why not?
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
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At first.

But honestly, other's extreme emotions burn me out quickly. So, I can approach said debate in an even temperament, but once the poo flinging begins, I feel drained and generally see my way to the door.

There is definite value in being able to approach something with an even mind. That is most often the only way people listen to each other. Once the volume starts rising, figuratively speaking, people focus more on being heard and less on hearing, in my experience.

A shouting match is a waste of time.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I do pretty well at religious debates. Politics? As they say, that's a "work in progress" because I can go from calm to boiling in milliseconds.
 

SalixIncendium

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I do pretty well at religious debates. Politics? As they say, that's a "work in progress" because I can go from calm to boiling in milliseconds.

I find this interesting. What would you consider the biggest difference to be in how you approach topics in the two venues?

Are you more passionate about political issues than religious ones, or are you just feel that people have less influence on society with religious views than political views?
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
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In perusing the religious debates forum, it appears that some members wear their emotions on their sleeves, so to speak. Religious debates on RF range from passionate to downright hostile.

Do you feel you can approach a religious debate with equanimity?

Is there value in doing so?

Why or why not?

Approaching discussions/debates with equanimity is essential. Otherwise the discussion too easily generates more heat than light and its difficult to communicate and learn. While its the ideal I aspire too, its easy to fall short, sometimes badly.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
In perusing the religious debates forum, it appears that some members wear their emotions on their sleeves, so to speak. Religious debates on RF range from passionate to downright hostile.

Do you feel you can approach a religious debate with equanimity?

Is there value in doing so?

Why or why not?
everyone wants to be loved but not everyone is loving. when you question someone's belief system, their foundation and you show them that something they rely on isn't backing it up, you're going to see hostility and emotional upset. that world that they have fantasized about, imagined, has gotten re-arranged. sometimes people don't want the truth. its a bit scary feeling like you aren't the one in control.


santa clause isn't a person who lives at the north pole. I was miffed. someone had some explaining to do. so what is more important

socializing with someone and learning something new

or

reinforcing someones idea of self-perpetuating fantasy


its what we don't know that kills us. it isn't what we believe.

hind sight is 20\20
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I find this interesting. What would you consider the biggest difference to be in how you approach topics in the two venues?

Are you more passionate about political issues than religious ones, or are you just feel that people have less influence on society with religious views than political views?

In areas of religion and spirituality I don't see an either/or but rather many different approaches. Even those who think I'm going in the exact wrong path are sincere in their beliefs.

In the political realm, I can find areas of agreement with almost any person/group. But when it comes to unquestioning allegiance to someone, unwillingness to call out lust for power or unquestioning acceptance of lying/gaslighting I get triggered.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
I don't really feel like it's that hostile , at its worst.. if you've ever been on early forums with no rules, I can remember just how viscous people could get though . People will just let the hounds loose if you let em
 
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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Premium Member
I can. I’m pretty chill about religion.
Politics seems more emotionally charged. Well American politics at least
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
By equanimity are you referring to a dispassionate analysis of empirical facts?

Discussion of serious topics, where issues of fact are in dispute, must scrupulously avoid emotional contamination. Serious disputants must switch to Spock mode, with no right-brain input.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
In perusing the religious debates forum, it appears that some members wear their emotions on their sleeves, so to speak. Religious debates on RF range from passionate to downright hostile.

Do you feel you can approach a religious debate with equanimity?

Is there value in doing so?

Why or why not?
Hmmm....
Good question.

Perhaps start a religious figh...er..debate and let us test it..?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Do you feel you can approach a religious debate with equanimity?
Is there value in doing so? Why or why not?
You mean sanely, without rancor? It is very difficult with the adherents of Christianirty and Islam and the younger sibling, the Bahais. RF is basically dominated by Christians and the Abrahmic religions have atheists as adversaries when they are not fighting among each other. The positions are intractable, and I think that is perhaps what we come here for, fight till the last breath. :D
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
You mean sanely, without rancor? It is very difficult with the adherents of Christianirty and Islam and the younger sibling, the Bahais. RF is basically dominated by Christians and the Abrahmic religions have atheists as adversaries when they are not fighting among each other. The positions are intractable, and I think that is perhaps what we come here for, fight till the last breath. :D

The fight is an illusion. Once we close the screen, we take a nap, feed the pets, go to work, and yap at the t.v.

It does give insight of extreme religious and cultural biases people have they wouldn't say in person.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
In perusing the religious debates forum, it appears that some members wear their emotions on their sleeves, so to speak. Religious debates on RF range from passionate to downright hostile.

Do you feel you can approach a religious debate with equanimity?

Is there value in doing so?

Why or why not?

Strictly religious like discussing theology, scriptures, insights, I'm actually very calm to tell you honestly. Political religious topics such as stereotypes about priests and the church, lgbtq issues, life/death, and premeditated negative responses etc would get me more round up.

I don't think on an online platform it's truly possible to be calm without needing to change the topic or avoid the conversation. I assume it's more discerning your triggers.

Its the triggers that's the issue. Click-baits
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
In perusing the religious debates forum, it appears that some members wear their emotions on their sleeves, so to speak. Religious debates on RF range from passionate to downright hostile.

Do you feel you can approach a religious debate with equanimity?

Is there value in doing so?

Why or why not?
Me getting upset about poo flinging monsters in RF :confused: Nope nope nopti-nope :mad:
But a few times i come a cross a poop of a debate person :oops: And me wearing my emotions on my sleeves :eek: ummm nope.... just want to rip someones heart out, stomp on it and ripp it to peases :confused:

Or maybe this guy actually do care about what others say :( and get hurt when someone stepping on my belief :oops:, but i do wish to have a calm civilized discussion without a lot of craptiduda and poop flinging....

But honestly: it has helped to be honest about how I felt and a lot of it if not all (so far) has calmed down and i feel so much more happy in RF now :)
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Me getting upset about poo flinging monsters in RF :confused: Nope nope nopti-nope :mad:
But a few times i come a cross a poop of a debate person :oops: And me wearing my emotions on my sleeves :eek: ummm nope.... just want to rip someones heart out, stomp on it and ripp it to peases :confused:

Or maybe this guy actually do care about what others say :( and get hurt when someone stepping on my belief :oops:, but i do wish to have a calm civilized discussion without a lot of craptiduda and poop flinging....

But honestly: it has helped to be honest about how I felt and a lot of it if not all (so far) has calmed down and i feel so much more happy in RF now :)
I will never forget this :D
What happen to the coconut :confused: i am still waiting for answer to my last question :confused:
Coconut where are you..... did my last question hit you to hard in your coconut :confused:
 
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