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Jesus raised Himself from the dead

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I find at Romans 8:11.... ' he that raised up Christ '....
doesn't say jesus raised up anyone from the dead. jesus can only ask god's spirit; which does the raising.


I find at Colossians 3:11 is Not about resurrection
i didn't quote galatians. colossians 3:11 doesn't say jesus for a reason.


But I do find at Colossians 2:12 that God resurrected Jesus.
god resurrects everyone because unlike idolators, god is not a respecter of persons.

idolatry is expressly and repeatedly forbidden by the ot and nt

paul himself talks about idolatry and idolators
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
doesn't say jesus raised up anyone from the dead. jesus can only ask god's spirit; which does the raising.
god resurrects everyone because unlike idolators, god is not a respecter of persons..................

God gave Jesus the Resurrection Power - Revelation 1:18
True, God is Not partial, or as you say respecter or persons, but that does Not mean those destroyed at Armageddon will have a resurrection.
The 'executional words from Jesus' mouth' (Isaiah 11:3-4) is an adverse judgement against the wicked (Rev. 19:14-15)
The wicked are: destroyed forever - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
God gave Jesus the Resurrection Power - Revelation 1:18
True, God is Not partial, or as you say respecter or persons, but that does Not mean those destroyed at Armageddon will have a resurrection.
The 'executional words from Jesus' mouth' (Isaiah 11:3-4) is an adverse judgement against the wicked (Rev. 19:14-15)
The wicked are: destroyed forever - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35

Revelation 20 disagrees with you. Those not resurrected as you say are because they are immortal beings. The serpent and the dragon are immortals. But all those who died are resurrected. Resurrection is not a reward.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Revelation 20 disagrees with you. Those not resurrected as you say are because they are immortal beings. The serpent and the dragon are immortals. But all those who died are resurrected. Resurrection is not a reward.
The ' serpent ' (aka Satan) is destroyed by Jesus according to Hebrews 2:14 B.
Created Adam was like angelic life which is also: mortal.

No resurrection from ' second death ' - Revelation 21:8
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
The ' serpent ' (aka Satan) is destroyed by Jesus according to Hebrews 2:14 B.
Created Adam was like angelic life which is also: mortal.

No resurrection from ' second death ' - Revelation 21:8

What? the second resurrection is what happens before the second death. Satan was destroyed? Really? Then why do you people claim satan is still there to bother you? Why is "That old Serpent" mentioned in the book of Revelation? Saul paul did not know that John would receive revelations which actually exposes his own teachings. Father Adam was not mortal before the fall. Father Adam is greater than Angels.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
God gave Jesus the Resurrection Power - Revelation 1:18
True, God is Not partial, or as you say respecter or persons, but that does Not mean those destroyed at Armageddon will have a resurrection.
The 'executional words from Jesus' mouth' (Isaiah 11:3-4) is an adverse judgement against the wicked (Rev. 19:14-15)
The wicked are: destroyed forever - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35
and now I have that key.

Luke 11:52



the personality is destroyed. it didn't exist when you came into this experience and it won't exist when you leave. those attached to this experience, earthly will have trouble experiencing the heavenly spiritual. this is why the 2nd death has sway over the sinners


again you can dispute all you want and believe any and every crazy thing you will, but that won't change the meaning of the word regeneration = palingenesis = metempsychosis = reincarnation.


so let the dead, spiritually dead, bury the earthly because those who sleep in the dust, the body, know nothing. they believe because wisdom is proved right by their belief and lack of understanding and knowing.


energy cannot be created/destroyed. it simply changes form. then if god is omnipresent everywhere god would be destroying itself. god isn't. god destroys the illusion and attachment to forms.

only the son of man who came down from heaven goes up to heaven. so then that which was before, will be again. there is nothing new under the sun

i am that i am
 
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