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Catholic church cannot bless same-sex unions

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
The Catholic church had gay unions in the middle ages.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I know. But my faith is not a commitment to being up to date with 'the times'.

Blessing same sex marriages is just the same as a no catholic christian in mass crossing his hands over his chest to get the priest blessings. They can't be married in the church but at least the church can see them more than "just a union." I've never heard of the sacraments stop working based on what's in between a person's legs.

The church thought (and still written so probably still does) think what's between two couples legs defines the type of commitment two catholics of the same sex have with each other. Even equally so, continuously see gay people (they upgraded their views) from being sick to just needing to control their "lust." What's between the legs determines who is more acceptable to lust.

While jesus said neither gew nor gentile, etc, it does make me wonder if future popes will help change the churches view on gay catholics to where their marriage is blessed by God even though it can't by the church.

That's another thing, too. Gay catholics believe God blesses their communion. Is god wrong to have done so or is it less about their sex and more about their nature of their conviction?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
And people wonder why traditional churches are losing congregations!!

Catholic church cannot bless same-sex unions, Vatican decrees

I bet there are many catholic families with same-sex relationships in them
Come on Pope - join the 19th Century at least

The very least the church can do is acknowledge gay catholic people's marriage and not devalue it as a union. Most gay catholics believe their marriages are blessed by God. Unless the church determines who God blesses, I can see why gay catholics leave the church. It's a conflict to the nature of their conviction which they see as a sacrament not as a legal union.

"God blesses our marriage but pur church does not." Who determines qo God should bless.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Art. 7 Italian Constitution. Separation between Church and State. One cannot interfere into the other's matters. (The article says each one has its own sphere independent from the other's).

So...the secular State has the obligation to protect LGBT's rights. Right to marriage and others.
But the RCC does not have this obligation.


My personal opinion is that it is christian to affirm that homosexual love is love . It is blessed by God.
God does not bless loveless marriage...whether it is heterosexual or homosexual...imho;)
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And people wonder why traditional churches are losing congregations!!

Catholic church cannot bless same-sex unions, Vatican decrees

I bet there are many catholic families with same-sex relationships in them
Come on Pope - join the 19th Century at least
We shouldn't expect religions to make sense in the secular world.
They have beliefs that some things are wrong to do...sins.
Jews who won't use elevators on Saturday.
Priests who won't marry same sex couples.
Hindus who won't eat cows.
Baptists who won't dance.
Muslims who won't drink.

We who disagree with such religions have the
best option, ie, don't join them.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Art. 7 Italian Constitution. Separation between Church and State. One cannot interfere into the other's matters. (The article says each one has its own sphere independent from the other's).

So...the secular State has the obligation to protect LGBT's rights. Right to marriage and others.
But the RCC does not have this obligation.


My personal opinion is that it is christian to affirm that homosexual love is love . It is blessed by God.
God does not bless loveless marriage...whether it is heterosexual or homosexual...imho;)

It would be nice for gay catholics to hear this from the pope. Even though he wouldn't call it marriage, I'd hope he wouldn't devalue it and call it just a legal union. It's odd God would bless all marriages but not the church. It's a conflict of morals which should be united.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Does the church call marriages in approved denominations marriage (male/female) as they do baptism or other marriages can't be blessed and labeled marriage either because there is no church blessings?

Does marriage have I have blessings like baptism where it doesn't need to be in the church to be valid?
 

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It would be nice for gay catholics to hear this from the pope. Even though he wouldn't call it marriage, id hope he wouldn't devalue it and call it just a legal union. It's odd God would bless all marriages but not the church. It's a conflict of mora's which should be united.
I do agree.
 
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