filthyrottendirty
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Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him."John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Come again, but Jesus did not say ‘where’ He would come or ‘how’ He would come so there is no reason to think this one verse is Jesus saying He will come to earth again in the same body He had when He walked the earth 2000 years ago, especially in light of all these other verses that contradict that (John 14:19, John 17:4, John 17:11, John 19:30, John 18:36).
"and receive you unto myself" is obviously about the Spirit of Jesus, not His physical body, and please note that Jesus did not ever say He would come again and ‘do’ anything on earth that would require a body, like building a Kingdom of God on earth, as Christians believe Jesus will do.
Jesus did not say my body will come again. The spirit of Jesus did come again, in the Person of Baha'u'llah, and that was what Jesus promised to send. Jesus was a Comforter who brought the Holy Spirit and Baha’u’llah was another Comforter who would brought the Holy Spirit.
John 14:16-17 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
"and receive you unto myself" is obviously about the Spirit of Jesus, not about His physical body, because there would be no way that the disciples Jesus was speaking to could receive the body of Jesus on earth since they were no longer living on earth. Where Jesus was in heaven and that is where the disciples also are, so that is where Jesus received them. That is why Jesus said that He went to prepare a place for them, a place in heaven, not on earth.
Christ’s return is not the same as the return of the same Jesus in the same body. Christians have been waiting of the same Jesus in the same body to return, and the reason they are still waiting is becauae Jesus never planned or promised to return in the same body.
I am saying that any Christians who believed that the same man Jesus was going to return to earth in the same body He had 2000 years ago have been wrong from day one, and that is why all the prophecies for the return of Christ have been fulfilled and yet no Jesus has returned.
Christians can ‘believe’ anything they want to, but beliefs do not constitute proof of any kind. The salient point is that Jesus promised He would send His Spirit, which is what Jesus was referring to in John 14:3, and not even once in the New Testament did Jesus promise to return as the same man in the same body. That is a Christian belief and a Christian expectation, not anything Jesus ever promised to do. It is only because Christians believe that the same body of Jesus resurrected from the dead that they are able to maintain a belief that the same body of Jesus is going to return from heaven.
It can be proven by using the New Testament that Jesus never planned or promised to return and that Jesus was referring to another man who would come with another name and fulfill all the Bible prophecies (OT and NT) for the return of Christ and the Messiah, but that will make no difference to Christians because they ‘want’ the same man Jesus in the same body because they are emotionally attached to an image of Jesus that was portrayed in the New Testament.
Mathew 24:30 "Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory."
Revelation 22:12 "Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done"
Jesus is returning to deal with rebellion — sin — before setting up His Kingdom on earth. It is God's merciful and loving nature to let us know beforehand that Jesus will arrive in justice and judgment to give us a chance to repent. 2 Peter 3:9 explains, "God does not wish that any should perish but that all should be brought to repentance."