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And It Is Not A Crisis?

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
Hmmm... Well, Mexico has 2.1m confirmed cases of Covid. The US has 28m. Do these immigrants pose more of a threat than what we already have here at home? I mean... We are one of the worst countries for infection on the planet right now. o_O
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Hmmm... Well, Mexico has 2.1m confirmed cases of Covid. The US has 28m. Do these immigrants pose more of a threat than what we already have here at home? I mean... We are one of the worst countries for infection on the planet right now. o_O

These numbers say nothing on face value as far as I can tell.
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
These numbers say nothing on face value as far as I can tell.

What they tell me is that people spreading covid via migrating from Mexico is probably lower on the list of importance in containing the virus. What is important is to get more people to take social distancing and such seriously, and to get those vaccines out ASAP.

I already had to correct my dad the other day when he started to suggest that the reason California and New York had higher infection rates was because of the "illegals." Let's not start that nonsense...
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's gonna be a challenge, no doubt, but Biden is much more compassionate towards people, including children, than was and is Trump. A large part of this problem was and is caused by Trump's removal of any foreign aid to those in the Northern Triangle Countries that still has not been restored.

Now, when I say "foreign aid", I'm not referring to just dumping money on them because we simply cannot trust their governments. Also, we should try and work as closely with their neighbors instead of pretty much ignoring them, which is what the last administration largely did.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
(D)'s judge themselves by a different standard. Because they see themselves as "helping" the consequences of their enabling doesn't matter.

The Biden win was a win human trafficking, drug cartels, illegal aliens in sanctuary cities and the return to a deteriorating country.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
What they tell me is that people spreading covid via migrating from Mexico is probably lower on the list of importance in containing the virus. What is important is to get more people to take social distancing and such seriously, and to get those vaccines out ASAP.

I already had to correct my dad the other day when he started to suggest that the reason California and New York had higher infection rates was because of the "illegals." Let's not start that nonsense...

That I can agree with.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member

The chances are higher that migrants catch covid from Americans

Are they nor tested at border patrol? Certainly in europe you cannot cross a border without being tested.
So it seems that they caught covid in the US


I wonder how many un recorded unaccompanied migrant kids crossed on trumps watch. Seems to me that border patrol are now doing their job
 

esmith

Veteran Member
The chances are higher that migrants catch covid from Americans

Are they nor tested at border patrol? Certainly in europe you cannot cross a border without being tested.
So it seems that they caught covid in the US


I wonder how many un recorded unaccompanied migrant kids crossed on trumps watch. Seems to me that border patrol are now doing their job

Did you not read the article.. Appears not
The city of Brownsville administers these rapid tests at the bus station, after migrant families are released by the Border Patrol. A spokesperson for Brownsville confirmed that, since they began doing these tests Jan. 25, 108 migrants have tested positive for Covid-19, which is 6.3 percent of those who took the test.

Eva Orellana, 29, who is from Honduras and who tested positive, said she was going to take the bus to North Carolina with her 3-year-old daughter. "On the way, we were wearing a mask all the time, gel, washing our hands," she said. "Really, I don't feel anything."
Those who tested positive and spoke to Telemundo did not have any document indicating their Covid-19 test results; they said they were simply told by the station workers after taking the test.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Did you not read the article.. Appears not
The city of Brownsville administers these rapid tests at the bus station, after migrant families are released by the Border Patrol. A spokesperson for Brownsville confirmed that, since they began doing these tests Jan. 25, 108 migrants have tested positive for Covid-19, which is 6.3 percent of those who took the test.

Eva Orellana, 29, who is from Honduras and who tested positive, said she was going to take the bus to North Carolina with her 3-year-old daughter. "On the way, we were wearing a mask all the time, gel, washing our hands," she said. "Really, I don't feel anything."
Those who tested positive and spoke to Telemundo did not have any document indicating their Covid-19 test results; they said they were simply told by the station workers after taking the test.


So you say that testing is not required at the border. How odd


And how about my other two points?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
The crisis to me is here: too many choosing money over human life and selfish desires over loving one's neighbor. We need to put border walls around Texas and Mississippi

Democrats have started to reverse the degeneracy into an authoritarian hell-hole that the trump party was leading us into with cheers from the lunatic right the more the Constitution was shredded. The trump party wants to cancel democracy and the rule of law.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
I wonder what the US is waiting to double the number of immigrants it accept each year, steamlining the byzantine process to obtain work or temporary residence in the US and creatin actual immigration courts instead of the pseudo-judicial process they currently have.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
(D)'s judge themselves by a different standard. Because they see themselves as "helping" the consequences of their enabling doesn't matter.

The Biden win was a win human trafficking, drug cartels, illegal aliens in sanctuary cities and the return to a deteriorating country.
"Nice" stereotype, plus the last line is nothing short of being sheer nonsense.

Some people do show compassion towards others and not see everything being just partisan politics. Biden has long been known even by many Pubs as being a moral and compassionate person, but we certainly can't say the same about Trump.

BTW, who'd you support?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Did you not read the article.. Appears not
The city of Brownsville administers these rapid tests at the bus station, after migrant families are released by the Border Patrol. A spokesperson for Brownsville confirmed that, since they began doing these tests Jan. 25, 108 migrants have tested positive for Covid-19, which is 6.3 percent of those who took the test.

Eva Orellana, 29, who is from Honduras and who tested positive, said she was going to take the bus to North Carolina with her 3-year-old daughter. "On the way, we were wearing a mask all the time, gel, washing our hands," she said. "Really, I don't feel anything."
Those who tested positive and spoke to Telemundo did not have any document indicating their Covid-19 test results; they said they were simply told by the station workers after taking the test.

Oh yes, it is also suggested that the quick test can be up to 20% inaccurate for positive tests
 
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