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Why Praise God When He's The One Who Brought Coronavirus To Us?

SeekingAllTruth

Well-Known Member
Fears brain-swelling Nipah virus with up to 75% death rate 'may become next pandemic'

Matthew Dresch
11 hrs ago

Scientists are worried about the brain-swelling Nipah disease, which has a death rate of up to 75%, potentially becoming the next 'big' virus.

The fruit bat-borne disease has sparked fears among experts as it is high rate of mutation and is extremely deadly.

Vomiting, seizures and brain swelling are some of the symptoms of the virus, which first jumped from pigs to farmers in Malaysia in 1999.

The mortality rate of Nipah ranges between 40 to 75%, far higher than the 1% rate for coronavirus, according to the World Health Organisation.

The body named the disease as one of 16 priority pathogens that need to be researched due to their potential to spark an epidemic, The Sun reports.

A total of 260 viruses have been epidemic potential, experts found.

Nipah is particularly worrying as it has high rate of mutation and an incubation period of up to 45 days, meaning a person could spread it for more than a month before falling sick.

Scientists are worried that the next pandemic could be far worse than the coronavirus crisis.

Fears brain-swelling Nipah virus with up to 75% death rate 'may become next pandemic'
Surely he will save you
from the fowler’s snare
and from the deadly pestilence.

He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.

Peaceful Sabbath.


Looks like God is just getting started. Buckle up, kiddies. It's going to be a bumpy ride.
 

SeekingAllTruth

Well-Known Member
IF God "brought the corona virus" to us, then God also brought us everything that we love most in the world. Would you trade away the latter to rid yourself of the former? Would you trade away your life just to avoid death?

Then stop complaining. ;)

Lots of people would.....:cool:
 

SeekingAllTruth

Well-Known Member
The facts are is that we rebel against God, which in turn is rebelling against the entire system of creation we are part of.

Why would we think we can show disobedience against a perfect balanced system and not think there will be consequences?

Regards Tony
COVID spreading around the entire world doesn't compute in my mind as being a result of man rebelling against God. The two just seem mutually exclusively.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I don't get it. I read a lot of COVID long haulers stories of ongoing suffering and misery on several forums (people whose symptoms mild and severe linger months possibly years after finally testing negative). Many to most ask for prayers to get over it and a few who praise God when they do--only to fall ill against weeks or months later in many cases.

What I don't get is the Bible says this:

I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7

Instead of praising God we should be holding Him responsible for all the misery and death Coronavirus is doing to us. He tells us in no uncertain words He's the one who created this monstrous evil we have labeled Coronavirus.

Now before you throw "Bad translation" at me you should know that this is the King James, widely regarded as the most perfect translation ever done. Many Christians regard it as the authoritative word of God straight from God's mouth.

So God brings something as evil as Coronavirus on us and people are praising Him for it. Sort of like when someone kicks you, you say, "I like that. Do it again."

I just don't get the logic--or illogic of it, that's a better word.

Well, I think when people mean god, they mean the source that started things in motion and that "source" keeps us going and alive. It doesn't create illnesses. The body is conditioned to age, get sick, and die. If we have a medical condition that doesn't have symptoms or the symptoms aren't and will not deter our lives then medical professionals wouldn't think of it as an issue-just as a dormant tumor, for example. It's just what the body does.

If they believe god is an entity like Casper that like the Olympian gods came outside in the universe and shaped the moon and stars and earth, then I'm at a loss as you are.
 

Andrew Reil

Member
I believe life is a test, like Job's. The Lord wants us to decide what we will do in various circumstances. There must be evil in the world to do this. Job said "shall we accept good from God and not trouble?" (Job 2:10)
In the next life God will make everything right. In this life we need to decide who we want to become.
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
Looks like God is just getting started. Buckle up, kiddies. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

I agree.

But the Devil is in the details.

If I take a running jump off the top of the Empire State Building, when I hit the ground, did I kill myself?

Or did God's Law of gravity kill me?

I think Covid is one of the signs from Revelation 13 that the Dragon is given the power to do on behalf of, or in the presence of, the composite beast.

These signs are providing to be the catalyst for the changes that the world is experiencing in the last year or so.

"Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.​

But who is the only One that can give the Dragon the power to DO these things?

My read on it is that when Christ returns, and just prior to that, He is going to undo His creation.

It's just something that is baked in the cake.

On the one hand it's not something I think is supposed to be cheered on, woe to those who long for the Day of the Lord. On the other hand, I'm told to look up, lift up my head for my redemption draweth nigh.

Peaceful Sabbath.
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
COVID spreading around the entire world doesn't compute in my mind as being a result of man rebelling against God. The two just seem mutually exclusively.

I does in my mind.

The fact that it DOES include the entire world is one of the indicators.

Think of the MERS and the Zika and the original sars covid viruses that didn't make it around the world.

On another thread here in 2019, I was saying something big had to begin, had to become evident in the "full veiw of mankind" in specifically January 2020.

Because I see this as the time for it to happen.

The heptads from Daniel 9 are playing out again in modern times, like they did from 457 BC.

The timing of 7 weeks and 62 weeks are too peculiar for them to occur by random chance.

Sunset 5:54PM.
 

SeekingAllTruth

Well-Known Member
I does in my mind.

The fact that it DOES include the entire world is one of the indicators.

Think of the MERS and the Zika and the original sars covid viruses that didn't make it around the world.

On another thread here in 2019, I was saying something big had to begin, had to become evident in the "full veiw of mankind" in specifically January 2020.

Because I see this as the time for it to happen.

The heptads from Daniel 9 are playing out again in modern times, like they did from 457 BC.

The timing of 7 weeks and 62 weeks are too peculiar for them to occur by random chance.

Sunset 5:54PM.

You think we're going into the 7-year tribulation?
 

SeekingAllTruth

Well-Known Member
Well, I think when people mean god, they mean the source that started things in motion and that "source" keeps us going and alive. It doesn't create illnesses. The body is conditioned to age, get sick, and die. If we have a medical condition that doesn't have symptoms or the symptoms aren't and will not deter our lives then medical professionals wouldn't think of it as an issue-just as a dormant tumor, for example. It's just what the body does.

If they believe god is an entity like Casper that like the Olympian gods came outside in the universe and shaped the moon and stars and earth, then I'm at a loss as you are.

Is this Being a thinking person or just a force that keeps the universe in order. I don't know. COVID just seems so wicked and the Bible says God is the author of evil so I just put 2 and 2 together.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
King James, the greatest translation in the history of man uses the word, "evil". I'll stick with evil.
Whether in the form of evil or calamity when we look at Scripture in context we can see that 'evil ' is Not always synonymous with wrong doing.

Words evolve, so some of the King James' words are out of use in today's English.
What is a shambles ___________ ( 1 Corinthians 10:25 ) In Jesus' day a shambles was a meat market.
Today a person does Not go to a shambles to purchase meat, so the word shambles could be confusing.
Let us know what you think of KJV :
Philemon 1:8 ________________
Genesis 25:29________________
Leviticus 26:16_______________
Isaiah 58:8 B ________________
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
You think we're going into the 7-year tribulation?
Think about this:
The end came ' hard and fast ' in Noah's Day.
The end came ' hard and fast ' for Sodom and Gomorrah.
The end came ' hard and fast ' for un-faithful Jerusalem in the year 70.
So, the pattern is set: The great tribulation / Armageddon will come ' hard and fast '. No 7 years.
God's people will follow the advice found at Isaiah 26:20 ________________
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
You think we're going into the 7-year tribulation?

No.

Not in the traditional Hal Lindsey genre.

But because the last 49 and 434 years have an unmistakable fingerprint in time, there has to be a last "week".

Like the one from the first century that Jesus dies in the middle of.

And then around 40 days after the middle of that heptad when two men dressed in white raiment said:

"They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”​
 

Treasure Hunter

Well-Known Member
I don't get it. I read a lot of COVID long haulers stories of ongoing suffering and misery on several forums (people whose symptoms mild and severe linger months possibly years after finally testing negative). Many to most ask for prayers to get over it and a few who praise God when they do--only to fall ill against weeks or months later in many cases.

What I don't get is the Bible says this:

I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7

Instead of praising God we should be holding Him responsible for all the misery and death Coronavirus is doing to us. He tells us in no uncertain words He's the one who created this monstrous evil we have labeled Coronavirus.

Now before you throw "Bad translation" at me you should know that this is the King James, widely regarded as the most perfect translation ever done. Many Christians regard it as the authoritative word of God straight from God's mouth.

So God brings something as evil as Coronavirus on us and people are praising Him for it. Sort of like when someone kicks you, you say, "I like that. Do it again."

I just don't get the logic--or illogic of it, that's a better word.

Christendom refuses to judge God in this way and break from the habitualized status quo. It refuses to eat of the forbidden fruit and move Christ from the right hand of the Father over to the left hand.

Because of this, Christendom continues to exist in a lower, more shallow version of truth. A truth that doesn’t completely fill and which causes repetitive, addiction like re-feeding.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
"They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”​


Yes, ' taken from you.... ' ( Like an air plane taken in the clouds becomes invisible to those on the ground )
And since John 14:19 Jesus says........ the world would see him No more;.........
Then, as Jesus was invisible to the human eye surrounded by a cloud, then we will see with the ' mind's eye' .
A mental perception such as the things found at Luke 21:11; 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Is this Being a thinking person or just a force that keeps the universe in order. I don't know. COVID just seems so wicked and the Bible says God is the author of evil so I just put 2 and 2 together.

I put it in perspective. Lung cancer, and illnesses that can kill you within three to six months, without full cure, I have more sentiment for. Nonetheless, I'd say force that keeps the world in order. I would say that is energy, but since religion is built around this force, to think of it that mundane would leave a bit of emptiness. I read one person awhile back said that if he didn't go to his altar in the morning everyday, he'd feel like he's missing something. So, unless god is a casper like being or so have you, I dont see the sense of blaming a force. Deadly and contagious illnesses are bad but I think we'd drive ourselves crazy overthinking COVID. Keep it in perspective. I don't believe god had anything to do with it.
 

Treasure Hunter

Well-Known Member
I believe life is a test, like Job's. The Lord wants us to decide what we will do in various circumstances. There must be evil in the world to do this. Job said "shall we accept good from God and not trouble?" (Job 2:10)
In the next life God will make everything right. In this life we need to decide who we want to become.

Life is a test. It is a test to see who has the faith in that which belongs to them. Those who are weak in faith will wait and rationalize. In my view.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7
By the time Isaiah is written, Yahweh has become the ONLY god. Earlier [he] was merely said to be pre-eminent (eg "no other gods before me").

So once [he]'s the ONLY god, and almighty into the bargain, the logic is inescapable. Evil ─ exactly like everything else ─ exists because God wants it to. If [he] didn't want it to, it wouldn't exist.
 
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