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are vedantans monists?
was jesus teaching monism with his I and the father are one?
exodus 3:14 is a verb which basically says i will be what i create.That’s not monism. I don’t believe it’s even one part. It’s not Advaita Vedanta. If it were Advaita, God the Father, Jesus and I are one. Monism says all things come from one source. I’m Hinduism it’s Brahman, in Taoism it’s the Tao. In modern cosmology and physics it’s energy. Pantheism is monism because pantheism posits one source, God. But monism doesn’t require a God to be the source. The basis of this universe, that everything is energy, is one example of monism. The God of the Bible, biblical theology and cosmology are not monism/monist.
And I believe this is a “deja vu all over again” thread.
exodus 3:14 is a verb which basically says i will be what i create.
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i will be what i will be
knock on wood. If it were Advaita, God the Father, Jesus and I are one. Monism says all things come from one source. I’m Hinduism it’s Brahman, in Taoism it’s the Tao.
No, it doesn’t say that. God and creation are not the same thing. He is outside of his creation. “I am that I am” means that God exists of himself. He has no source or creator.
That’s not monism. I don’t believe it’s even one part. It’s certainly not Advaita Vedanta. If it were Advaita, God the Father, Jesus and I are one. Monism says all things come from one source. I’m Hinduism it’s Brahman, in Taoism it’s the Tao. In modern cosmology and physics it’s energy. Pantheism is monism because pantheism posits one source, God. But monism doesn’t require a God to be the source. The basis of this universe, that everything is energy, is one example of monism. The God of the Bible, biblical theology and cosmology are not monism/monist.
And I believe this is a “deja vu all over again” thread. That’s ok, just making an observation.
Someone can believe there are two fundamental substances for example (matter and spirit) while being a polytheist. In either case, the OP seems to be talking about monotheism, not really monism.
are vedantans monists? with the great four utterances?
was jesus teaching monism with his I and the father are one? or the name above all names?
who are you keeping company with?
Keep trying to pound a square peg into a round hole ... sheeza no gonna work.
The problem with the theological concept of Monism is that it is a slippery concept with many variations.
Monism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Monism
"There are many monisms. What they share is that they attribute oneness. Where they differ is in what they target and how they count.
This entry focuses on two of the more historically important monisms: existence monism and priority monism. Existence monism targets concrete objects and counts by tokens. This is the doctrine that exactly one concrete object token exists. Priority monism also targets concrete objects but counts by basic tokens. This is the doctrine that exactly one concrete object token is basic, and is equivalent to the classical doctrine that the whole is prior to its (proper) parts.
For roughly a century, neither existence nor priority monism was accorded much respect, nor were they even properly distinguished. Indeed, the tradition associated with these doctrines was long dismissed as being somewhere between obscure and ridiculous. But attitudes have evolved, because there are serious arguments for such monisms. Priority monism may especially deserve serious reconsideration.
Though this entry will focus on existence monism and priority monism, there are of course other historically important monisms, including substance monism. Substance monism targets concrete objects and counts by highest types. This is the doctrine that all concrete objects fall under one highest type (perhaps material, or mental, or some neutral underlying type: here the way divides). This topic is covered elsewhere in the encyclopedia (Robinson 2011)."
What form of Monism are you proposing?' and others posting; 'What form of Monism are you denying?'
noTo add another layer, monism is technically a reference to one's philosophical position on the fundamental substances of reality. While in some cases this is connected to theology, it can also be assessed as a separate question:
Someone can believe there are two fundamental substances for example (matter and spirit) while being a polytheist. In either case, the OP seems to be talking about monotheism, not really monism.
- Q1: What are the fundamental substance(s) that underlies all reality?
- Possible answers: one substance (monism), two substances (dualism), three or more substances (pluralism)
- Q2: What is worthy of worship and how many in number are they?
- Possible answers: monotheism (one worthy of worship), duotheism (two worthy of worship), polytheism (multiple worthy of worship); with many other variants and qualities of the gods
monotheism is the idea that there is a duality. that there is one god and then the believer separate from it
monism is basically pantheism. all in one and one in all
its an acceptance of one god separate from self.Not sure where you learned that. Monotheism just means belief/acceptance of one god - that's it. How that god relates to humans is a different issue that emerges from specific theologies as monotheism only answers the question "how many are gods?"
there is no duality in monism. there is just the divinity being manifested in all.Wrong again. Monism doesn’t require a God. Pantheism can be monism but monism is not panthers. Note the word theism in pantheism. ... atheism from theos, God. I don’t know what you’re trying to get at but it’s failing epically.
there is no duality in monism. there is just the divinity being manifested in all.
same idea as maya and lila
there isn't some god and some otherness; so the line of distinction between and god self is blurred.
agreedMonism doesn't require a God. I said the universe can be considered monist because it is one and only one thing... energy.