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The Being Whose Intelligence is Consciousness made Actual

Ostronomos

Well-Known Member
As mentioned in a previous thread, God is the relationship between mind and reality. This was an insight that I arrived at in a meditative state.

The potential for God to exist is born out of the human brain, or parts of it, that when activated, generates an external conscious entity within their environment. The conscious entity appears to respond to internal thoughts and even actions. It can also provide signs warning of danger.

When the brain generates this extra-dimensional being, it appears to act intelligently and independently. It may be assumed that the entity or "syntactical machine that is consciousness made actual" exists prior to matter, since matter takes on a lower form of reality and does not possess intrinsic intelligence.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Nice claims.

Good luck showing they are actually true.

Insight from meditation is just like any other intuition: just as likely to be wrong as correct. Actually, MORE likely to be wrong than right.
 

Ostronomos

Well-Known Member
Nice claims.

Good luck showing they are actually true.

Insight from meditation is just like any other intuition: just as likely to be wrong as correct. Actually, MORE likely to be wrong than right.

A fair assumption. However one can easily state that reality is not equally accessible to everyone.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
A fair assumption. However one can easily state that reality is not equally accessible to everyone.

Since we are part of reality, why would or how would you have found this insight if you see others ignorant of it?

Wouldn't realization mean that we understand we are all apart of reality and access it just in our own way meditation or not?

In other words, if reality is everything how can one claim others are ignorant of it?
 

Ostronomos

Well-Known Member
Since we are part of reality, why would or how would you have found this insight if you see others ignorant of it?

DNA.

Wouldn't realization mean that we understand we are all apart of reality and access it just in our own way meditation or not?[

That leaves open room for figments of the imagination and all kinds of wild speculation.

In other words, if reality is everything how can one claim others are ignorant of it?

You believe that matter is not only accessible by everyone but all there is to reality? Just curious. If so I am here to say it is not all there is to reality.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member

What do you mean?

Spiritual insight to reality comes through DNA just some people can't access it?

(Which is odd if this is true. How do you know/and show that reality (another word for god?) is transferred through DNA?

That leaves open room for figments of the imagination and all kinds of wild speculation.

Yes. I'm wondering what is different about your speculation that others cannot see?

You believe that matter is not only accessible by everyone but all there is to reality? Just curious. If so I am here to say it is not all there is to reality.

I'm saying everything/everyone is reality (if not assuming another word for god). People access it (if one likes) in different ways such as gratitude and love. Some get it by doing their passion. Some more esthetic such as meditating. Others less so (if to contrast) such as taking care of family.
 

JoshuaTree

Flowers are red?
As mentioned in a previous thread, God is the relationship between mind and reality. This was an insight that I arrived at in a meditative state.

The potential for God to exist is born out of the human brain, or parts of it, that when activated, generates an external conscious entity within their environment. The conscious entity appears to respond to internal thoughts and even actions. It can also provide signs warning of danger.

When the brain generates this extra-dimensional being, it appears to act intelligently and independently. It may be assumed that the entity or "syntactical machine that is consciousness made actual" exists prior to matter, since matter takes on a lower form of reality and does not possess intrinsic intelligence.

God's imagination is our reality, and our soul is God's memory of us.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
A fair assumption. However one can easily state that reality is not equally accessible to everyone.

True.

For example, if you have a telescope or a microscope, you will be able to see more than someone without them.

You are claiming you have special insights. Why should I believe your claims?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member

How does something material, like DNA, allow this special ability?

That leaves open room for figments of the imagination and all kinds of wild speculation.

Which is why testability is required. How do we know *your* ideas aren't simply figments of *your* imagination?

You believe that matter is not only accessible by everyone but all there is to reality? Just curious. If so I am here to say it is not all there is to reality.

Depends on how you define 'matter'.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Let us play. Let us say between 1 and 0, you have an access of 0.9 and I have 0.4. Then where am I for the rest - the 0.6 that is not reality. ;)

Be interesting if that could be measured. Just off the cuff, I'd say I have zero access but that is not true. I have a filtered access of questionable accuracy to reality.
Nice to come up with a way to objectively measure that accuracy. Wouldn't expect it to be high but high enough to get stuff done without too much failure.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Be interesting if that could be measured. Just off the cuff, I'd say I have zero access but that is not true. I have a filtered access of questionable accuracy to reality.
Nice to come up with a way to objectively measure that accuracy. Wouldn't expect it to be high but high enough to get stuff done without too much failure.

I would say that we have filtered access with some known flaws in the filtering system (optical illusions, for example). We also know of many things we don't directly detect (x-rays, radio, ultrasound, etc).

Fortunately, we have access to other filters that *can* detect other things and make them accessible to us.

There are many clues, but nature is subtle.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I would say that we have filtered access with some known flaws in the filtering system (optical illusions, for example). We also know of many things we don't directly detect (x-rays, radio, ultrasound, etc).

Fortunately, we have access to other filters that *can* detect other things and make them accessible to us.

There are many clues, but nature is subtle.

I think it'd be interesting to have a test though. Some folks hear voices, some see things that aren't there. Some are color blind. Individually we are not equal in access. I suspect other subtle issues issue an individual might not be aware of. Like I transpose numbers. Somethings I wasn't aware of for many years. They can test for be it'd be nice to have a complete evaluation.

Objective evidence of all those things you experience which can't be relied on.
 

Ostronomos

Well-Known Member
How does something material, like DNA, allow this special ability?

Matter can be reduced further to information or 0s and 1s. Where the 0s represent non-existence and the 1s represent existence, or any other kind of duality for that matter. Christ, like myself, was born with a DNA that allowed him to access the divine on an almost constant basis. Not that I'm comparing myself to Christ, but I am the only one I know of who has this unique ability. I can sense demonic forces whenever I enter into that dimension of mind. However thanks to the all-encompassing entity known as God, I merely have to utter or will them away and they are kept at bay, physically and psychologically. In this realm my mind controls the degree of aggression expressed by other human beings who believe they have free will but are merely the pawns of demons within my environment. This is officially known in science as Quantum entanglement between mind and reality,



Which is why testability is required. How do we know *your* ideas aren't simply figments of *your* imagination?

Not only do I experience this within or subjectively but without or objectively. Thus enabling a 100% confidence of this. Then I proceed to explain it both while my consciousness is expanded through drug use (in which I become the most intelligent person in History temporarily unlike now) and while normal (merely as someone who is reasonably intelligent).



Depends on how you define 'matter'.

A photon may very well be able to 'think' at a very basic level as demonstrated by making a decision on which of the two slits to enter in the dual slit experiment. Hence all matter, at the surface of its existence, is capable of interacting through physical contact thus processing information through Physics as John Wheeler noted.
 
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