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‘Appalling’: World leaders blast Russia over Navalny arrest

danieldemol

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Premium Member
'Alexey Navalny has been arrested at a Moscow airport as he tried to enter the country from Germany, where he had spent five months recovering from an alleged nerve agent poisoning that he blamed on the Kremlin.

The Kremlin critic’s detention on Sunday at passport control in Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport was widely expected as Russia’s prisons service said he had violated parole terms from a suspended sentence on a 2014 embezzlement conviction.

The prison service said he would be held in custody until a court rules on his case. No date for a court appearance was immediately announced.'

Read more here: ‘Appalling’: World leaders blast Russia over Navalny arrest
 

Martin

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'Alexey Navalny has been arrested at a Moscow airport as he tried to enter the country from Germany, where he had spent five months recovering from an alleged nerve agent poisoning that he blamed on the Kremlin.

The Kremlin critic’s detention on Sunday at passport control in Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport was widely expected as Russia’s prisons service said he had violated parole terms from a suspended sentence on a 2014 embezzlement conviction.

The prison service said he would be held in custody until a court rules on his case. No date for a court appearance was immediately announced.'

Read more here: ‘Appalling’: World leaders blast Russia over Navalny arrest

Given the Farting Trumpet's appalling behaviour, the irony of Pompeo's comment is staggering.
"Confident political leaders do not fear competing voices... "
Meh.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
'Alexey Navalny has been arrested at a Moscow airport as he tried to enter the country from Germany, where he had spent five months recovering from an alleged nerve agent poisoning that he blamed on the Kremlin.

The Kremlin critic’s detention on Sunday at passport control in Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport was widely expected as Russia’s prisons service said he had violated parole terms from a suspended sentence on a 2014 embezzlement conviction.

The prison service said he would be held in custody until a court rules on his case. No date for a court appearance was immediately announced.'

Read more here: ‘Appalling’: World leaders blast Russia over Navalny arrest
I confess I've not read about this too much. Did he have to return? The consequences for him seem depressingly obvious.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I confess I've not read about this too much. Did he have to return? The consequences for him seem depressingly obvious.
I don't know if he had to return.

Personally I wouldn't have returned but I guess he loves Russia a lot to return.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
'Alexey Navalny has been arrested at a Moscow airport as he tried to enter the country from Germany, where he had spent five months recovering from an alleged nerve agent poisoning that he blamed on the Kremlin.

The Kremlin critic’s detention on Sunday at passport control in Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport was widely expected as Russia’s prisons service said he had violated parole terms from a suspended sentence on a 2014 embezzlement conviction.

The prison service said he would be held in custody until a court rules on his case. No date for a court appearance was immediately announced.'

Read more here: ‘Appalling’: World leaders blast Russia over Navalny arrest
The cream of the joke is that he was, so I gather, arrested for not presenting himself at a police station in accordance with the terms of his parole. Which he was unable to do, as a result of having his underpants poisoned (yes, really)........by the Russian secret police!

Pure Kafka. And very Russian.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Given the Farting Trumpet's appalling behaviour, the irony of Pompeo's comment is staggering.
"Confident political leaders do not fear competing voices... "
Meh.


Coarse phrasing doesn't imorove an
ignorant comment. Trump was not into
restrictions on free speech.

In the US the silencing of competing
voices is certainly a thing but unless
politicians are able to direct universities
to control speech / students to collude
in same, amd, the social media companies to
censor, its not politicians as such who
fear it. If fear is even the issue.

From here it looks more like self styled
wonderfulness.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
'Alexey Navalny has been arrested at a Moscow airport as he tried to enter the country from Germany, where he had spent five months recovering from an alleged nerve agent poisoning that he blamed on the Kremlin.

The Kremlin critic’s detention on Sunday at passport control in Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport was widely expected as Russia’s prisons service said he had violated parole terms from a suspended sentence on a 2014 embezzlement conviction.

The prison service said he would be held in custody until a court rules on his case. No date for a court appearance was immediately announced.'

Read more here: ‘Appalling’: World leaders blast Russia over Navalny arrest
Its certainly not a very politic way to handle an opposing political candidate. First poisoning fails. Then it fails again. Then you have them arrested. We can expect the government to run on lies from now on. Nobody can trust anybody. It marks a new gray era for Russia...sort of like the Tsar period reborn.

Most of this is rumor. I don't know if he was poisoned, just that its what I hear, here.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Its certainly not a very politic way to handle an opposing political candidate. First poisoning fails. Then it fails again. Then you have them arrested. We can expect the government to run on lies from now on. Nobody can trust anybody. It marks a new gray era for Russia...sort of like the Tsar period reborn.

Most of this is rumor. I don't know if he was poisoned, just that its what I hear, here.

Russia and China did not turn into
liberal democracies, did they?
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Must be so tempting for Putin to have him dying 'accidentally' in a prison cell (cell floor so slippery!) or being poisoned by some 'unknown' substance - which their labs couldn't identify. And some from Saudi Arabia will no doubt have advice for him. :oops:
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Its certainly not a very politic way to handle an opposing political candidate. First poisoning fails. Then it fails again. Then you have them arrested. We can expect the government to run on lies from now on. Nobody can trust anybody. It marks a new gray era for Russia...sort of like the Tsar period reborn.

Most of this is rumor. I don't know if he was poisoned, just that its what I hear, here.
No it's not rumour. It's well-attested fact. The authorities in several countries have had samples and confirmed it is novichok. Again.

Bellingcat knows the names of the poisoners and that they have shadowed Navalny on up to 40 internal flight before attacking him. Navalny himself rang up one of them, pretending to be a superior officer and got the guy to confirm to him how they did it (via his underpants, sent off to the hotel laundry). It's all on tape.

And it's not a new grey era for Russia. Nothing has ever really changed: they have been doing this sort of thing ever since the days of the Tsar's Okhrana and it continued right through the Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev eras. Putin's secret police poisoned Litvinenko in London, with a radioisotope of polonium - no doubt chosen because it is something only a state actor could possibly have access to - in 2006.

What they do is choose methods indicating unambiguously that it is the state, so as to terrify people into submission, while ritually denying it is anything to do with them.
 
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Martin

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Coarse phrasing doesn't imorove an
ignorant comment. Trump was not into
restrictions on free speech.

In the US the silencing of competing
voices is certainly a thing but unless
politicians are able to direct universities
to control speech / students to collude
in same, amd, the social media companies to
censor, its not politicians as such who
fear it. If fear is even the issue.

From here it looks more like self styled
wonderfulness.

Trump is a bully who sacked anybody that dared to disagree with his narcissistic delusions.
 

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
No it's not rumour. It's well-attested fact. The authorities in several countries have had samples and confirmed it is novichok. Again.

Bellingcat knows the names of the poisoners and that they have shadowed Navalny on up to 40 internal flight before attacking him. Navalny himself rang up one of them, pretending to be a superior officer and got the guy to confirm to him how they did it (via his underpants, sent off to the hotel laundry). It's all on tape.

And it's not a new grey era for Russia. Nothing has ever really changed: they have been doing this sort of thing ever since the days of the Tsar's Okhrana and it continued right through the Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev eras. Putin's secret police poisoned Litvinenko in London, with a radioisotope of polonium - no doubt chosen because it is something only a state actor could possibly have access to - in 2006.

What they do is choose methods indicating unambiguously that it is the state, so as to terrify people into submission, while ritually denying it is anything to do with them.

And more recently in 2018, the Novichok attack in Salisbury, UK.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
And more recently in 2018, the Novichok attack in Salisbury, UK.
Of course. I chose Litvinenko to show this behaviour is not just something that has recently resurfaced. Putin was at it 15 years ago.

Geogi Markov was bumped off in 1978, at a bus stop on Waterloo Bridge, with a poison-tipped umbrella that injected a pellet containing ricin. Again, a baroque method of murder, to make a statement of state action, to deter others.
 
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