religiousforums.com has now become politics forums

[Valjean]

There is a lot going on in American politics at the moment and maybe it has something to do with religion.

Both religion and politics concern themselves with morals, behavior and social conventions. I see a lot of overlap.

 

[SalixIncendium]

So when does the "religious" debate start in this thread?

 

[Revoltingest]

It's still quite the claim when you've been here about a month.

Still, she is correct.
And apparently staff are considering political
conversations to be a problem...at odds with
the forum mission.
Might we need to find a new forum some day?
Politics, governance, current events, war, etc
are real world things that matter greatly to us.

 

[Left Coast]

***MOVED TO GENERAL DEBATES***

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Still, she is correct.
And apparently staff are considering political
conversations to be a problem...at odds with
the forum mission.
Might we need to find a new forum some day?
Politics, governance, current events, war, etc
are real world things that matter greatly to us.

It should, I would think, become less frequent after Trump is gone.

 

[McBell]

Wikipedia is not exactly a reliable source, just FYI

Really?
Let us see:

and other activists have used the phrase to call for police budget reductions and to delegate certain police responsibilities to other organizations.[7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14]
​

Notice the SEVEN numbers in brackets?

Here they are:

Now it seems to me that you are declaring all of these sources "not exactly reliable":

1. The Sydney Morning Herald
2. The Atlantic
3. TIME
4. Black Lives Matter
5. dcist.com
6. Vox
7. The Washington Post
8. Today.com

Now there are 93 sources listed for that page and you gonna claim it unreliable?

I know there are eight, just seeing who is paying attention

 

[SomeRandom]

Really?
Let us see:

and other activists have used the phrase to call for police budget reductions and to delegate certain police responsibilities to other organizations.[7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14]
​

Notice the SEVEN numbers in brackets?

Here they are:
View attachment 46833

Now it seems to me that you are declaring all of these sources "not exactly reliable":

1. The Sydney Morning Herald
2. The Atlantic
3. TIME
4. Black Lives Matter
5. dcist.com
6. Vox
7. The Washington Post
8. Today.com

Now there are 93 sources listed for that page and you gonna claim it unreliable?

I know there are eight, just seeing who is paying attention

Fair point. I was more hinting that due to it being remarkably easy to edit, it’s not always necessarily a perfect source. Even in high school if we used Wikipedia for any of our assignments, we were expected to list at least 2 other reputable sources

 

[McBell]

Fair point. I was more hinting that due to it being remarkably easy to edit, it’s not always necessarily a perfect source. Even in high school if we used Wikipedia for any of our assignments, we were expected to list at least 2 other reputable sources

Wikipedia is not nearly as easy to edit as it used to be.
And you still have to pay attention to the sources in their articles...
But they have come a long way from what they used to be.

 

[SomeRandom]

Wikipedia is not nearly as easy to edit as it used to be.
And you still have to pay attention to the sources in their articles...
But they have come a long way from what they used to be.

Ahh, I see

 

[janesix]

Religiousforums.com has now become politicsforums.
I have nothing more to say than that.

.....

Yeah, sick of it ALL

 

[Wandering Monk]

Well, RF created sub-forums for politics and current events. Take it up with management if you don't like it.

 

[McBell]

Well, RF created sub-forums for politics and current events. Take it up with management if you don't like it.

Well, see, um....
Post #64 kinda takes all the wind out of the OP...

 

[Mock Turtle]

Perhaps a Dictators Only forum, and where all the more fawning Trump supporters can hang out would be one option?

 

[capumetu]

Let's face it. Politics is a religion!

You may not realize it sir, but you are quite correct. Virtually everything has a base rooted in religion. There are three aspects that make up satans world, which roots it in the spirit world, governments, religion, and commerce. I fully agree politics is definitely a religion.

 

[Revoltingest]

You may not realize it sir, but you are quite correct. Virtually everything has a base rooted in religion. There are three aspects that make up satans world, which roots it in the spirit world, governments, religion, and commerce. I fully agree politics is definitely a religion.

Is religion really just politics then?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Be careful what you wish for. A left wing Democrat party really could DEFUND THE POLICE
and allow American cities to burn. Many people voted for Trump in fear of this sort of thing.

I wish those on the right would learn what's really being sought -- which is to divert some money from simple policing to where it might do more good. How about the case of Sammy Yatim in Toronto, where I live. Better to have a troubled young man shot be a cop with a gun, or might the situation have been handled better if a mental healthcare professional was on hand?

Not every situation we face is best served by coercive force. I think anybody should be able to realize that.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Again, if I'm correctly interpreting the numbers appearing on the Forums index page,

Religious Debates has 44,094 threads and 3,015,687 posts, while
Political Debates has 16,336 threads and 653,22 posts.​

And, yes, when political events dramatically dominate the news, we may well find this fact reflected RF activity.

 

[Cooky]

I wish those on the right would learn what's really being sought -- which is to divert some money from simple policing to where it might do more good. How about the case of Sammy Yatim in Toronto, where I live. Better to have a troubled young man shot be a cop with a gun, or might the situation have been handled better if a mental healthcare professional was on hand?

Not every situation we face is best served by coercive force. I think anybody should be able to realize that.

I would think the "religious" would have some input on how to better handle the mentally ill, rather than sit back and watch them be thrown in prisons.

...But they're busy with theology...

 

[Revoltingest]

I wish those on the right would learn what's really being sought -- which is to divert some money from simple policing to where it might do more good. How about the case of Sammy Yatim in Toronto, where I live. Better to have a troubled young man shot be a cop with a gun, or might the situation have been handled better if a mental healthcare professional was on hand?

Not every situation we face is best served by coercive force. I think anybody should be able to realize that.

The left bears some responsibility for this with their "Defund
the police!" slogan. It was ripe for misuse by opponents bent
on mischief. Sloganeers should always first ask themselves...
How it will sound in the other side's echo chamber?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Insults (such as "ignorance") are ad hominem, and, therefore, illogical. You cannot win a debate by insulting someone. Furthermore, you have no website to back up your claim that I am ignorant. (I'll turn the other cheek and assume that it was a lucky guess).

Defund the police - Wikipedia

You say that defunding the police is about getting the police to focus on crime rather than social work. Yet, Wikipedia says the exact opposite (please see the website, above). Widipedia says "reallocating them [the police] to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources."

Next time you insult someone, at least have a website to back up your claim (notice the way I backed up my claim with a website).

I do not respond, in kind, with insults. Rather, I hope that you use respect and sources next time. Some might be embarrassed by the revelation that others found out their secret (I'm ignorant, but no one should have realized that this early in the discussion). I do, however, take IQ magazine (Idiot's Quarterly). It is a yearly publication that is supposed to be sent out every three months (but we're all idiots, so we don't know that). Some were going to get together to protest getting fewer magazines, but none of us could figure out where we were supposed to meet. Since we idiots can't meet in person (can't find the place), we wrote our phone numbers on strips of paper (and still keep them).

You have misunderstood the article. "Reallocating them" means some fo the funds spent on police -- not the police themselves.