Is according to Jews everything God's will?

[IndigoChild5559]

When people commit crimes they go to jail. Bribing a judge with good works would never pardon them. That's why the Messiah died for our sins. The Top 40 Messianic Prophecies

When a child breaks the rules of the parents, they are disciplined, but the ultimate result is reconciliation between parent and child.

 

[Skywalker]

In the Tanakh, salvation refers to being saved by very earthly foes, such as slavery in Egypt, or David being surrounded by those who want to kill him. The Tanakh doesn't talk about being "delivered from sin." Of course it does talk about repentance and God's mercy and forgiveness. But your whole theology of needing a perfect sacrifice etc., is utterly missing.

The Old Testament sacrifices foreshadowed the sacrifice of the Messiah. The Top 40 Messianic Prophecies

19) The Messiah would be a willing sacrifice
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[IndigoChild5559]

That would be preceded by inner peace.

There is nothing in the Tanakh about the Messiah bringing inner peace. It's a made up thing.

 

[Skywalker]

When a child breaks the rules of the parents, they are disciplined, but the ultimate result is reconciliation between parent and child.

God is different from a parent. God is a judge. We are not born members of God's family. When we accept Christ we become members of God's family.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The Old Testament sacrifices foreshadowed the sacrifice of the Messiah. The Top 40 Messianic Prophecies

foreshadowing is nonsense. And there are not 40 Messianic Prophecies.

 

[Skywalker]

There is nothing in the Tanakh about the Messiah bringing inner peace. It's a made up thing.

The Messiah being a prophet like unto Moses means that the Messiah would teach us how to live. Deuteronomy 18:15

The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The Messiah being a prophet like unto Moses means that the Messiah would teach us how to live. Deuteronomy 18:15

That's not the same as bringing inner peace. That's teaching obedience to the Law.

 

[Skywalker]

foreshadowing is nonsense. And there are not 40 Messianic Prophecies.

The Messiah being a wonderful counselor shows that one of his roles would be a rabbi, which is what was fulfilled in Jesus.

 

[Skywalker]

That's not the same as bringing inner peace. That's teaching obedience to the Law.

The reconciliation between God and people from the Messiah dying for our sins is what brings inner peace.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The Messiah being a wonderful counselor shows that one of his roles would be a rabbi, which is what was fulfilled in Jesus.

There are lots of great counselors and excellent rabbis. None of them are the Messiah.

 

[Skywalker]

foreshadowing is nonsense. And there are not 40 Messianic Prophecies.

The Old Testament rituals were types and shadows of the coming Messiah. The snake being lifted up in the wilderness was a type and shadow of Jesus.

 

[Skywalker]

There are lots of great counselors and excellent rabbis. None of them are the Messiah.

But it shows that one of the Messiah's roles was to be a teacher.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The reconciliation between God and people from the Messiah dying for our sins is what brings inner peace.

Living the life God has for us, obeying his laws and following his ways, is what brings inner peace.

 

[Skywalker]

Living the life God has for us, obeying his laws and following his ways, is what brings inner peace.

We are separated from God by our sins and need a mediator.. We are imperfect and could never stand in God's presence with our sins.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

But it shows that one of the Messiah's roles was to be a teacher.

But not all teachers are the Messiah. There have been gazillions of teachers, and none so far is the Messiah.

 

[Skywalker]

But not all teachers are the Messiah. There have been gazillions of teachers, and none so far is the Messiah.

The Pharisees disagreeing with the teachings of Jesus doesn't mean that he wasn't the Messiah.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

We are separated from God by our sins and need a mediator.. We are imperfect and could never stand in God's presence with our sins.

We are NOT separated from God. He hears the prayer of every repentant heart.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The Pharisees disagreeing with the teachings of Jesus doesn't mean that he wasn't the Messiah.

Not fulfilling the messianic prophecies means one is not the messiah.

 

[Skywalker]

We are NOT separated from God. He hears the prayer of every repentant heart.

If someone commits a crime, asking for forgiveness isn't enough. A judge could pardon someone, however, if a lawyer took their place. That is why Jesus died for our sins.

 

[Skywalker]

We are NOT separated from God. He hears the prayer of every repentant heart.

In God's eyes, even the best of us is a criminal condemned before the judge of a holy God. That is why Christ stepped down from his glory to come and die for our sins-to make a bridge between God and humanity.