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Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
GoodNo, I don't think that.
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GoodNo, I don't think that.
Why only churches? Why do you not mention mosques, Hindu temples?
So you mean that all religions can discriminate except for Christians?
What is the logic of that?
Come to think of it, wasn't a prerequisite for employment at Ark Encounter was that one has to be a Christian?I think it means that, by and large, it's Christian churches that do the discriminating.
IIRC, the statement of faith they made employees agree to went well beyond simply being Christian.Come to think of it, wasn't a prerequisite for employment at Ark Encounter was that one has to be a Christian?
That and more.Come to think of it, wasn't a prerequisite for employment at Ark Encounter was that one has to be a Christian?
Well, it has been my experience that this has, from time to time, led to unwelcoming environments to rethink. And I do speak from experience. Not everyone who appears to be bigoted actually is -- they often enough just don't know any better. And that's something that is actually quite easy to change.Why would anyone who's LGBT want to work in an environmemt where they're resented and unwelcome?
And this is exactly the opposite of my most recent post, above. Here we have someone, the pastor, of presumed intelligence - and some authority - making it absolutely clear that he has nothing to learn at all.I agree with exchemist. If it's a custodial or a landscaping job, there should be no discrimination. But if it's a Sunday school teacher, that's another matter. You can then list some religious qualifications on the application form, because it matters.
I have an acquaintance who was sort of in this position, although he was a volunteer. His son is gay, and as a consequence, he changed his tune about that, to being supportive, rather than hateful. In discussions with the pastor, they mutually agreed that he would no longer ever teach children or youth there, as it would compromise him, and have a lot of potential for problems. But he is still a volunteer pianist.
If you argue yes, then should liberal churches be legally allowed to discriminate by not hiring straights?
If you argue yes, then should liberal churches be legally allowed to discriminate by not hiring straights?
The Bible doesn't really condemn the T.I remind everyone, that LGBTQ is against scriptures
I assumed it was something like secretaries, groundskeepers, teachers, or other more general positions.New Just wondering how people "work" or get "hired" to do God's work?
God does not "hire".....he is worthy of our service freely given.
And the answer remains the same, yes.Should churches be allowed to discriminate based on the skin color of the person they're hiring? To me the same reasoning applies to the op.
I assumed it was something like secretaries, groundskeepers, teachers, or other more general positions.
No? What, then?What is a LGBTQ?
A HUMAN BEING.
NO!
For sure, but that is the way they are. Hard set, like concrete. Some folks will kick their own children out of the house. I've never been impressed.And this is exactly the opposite of my most recent post, above. Here we have someone, the pastor, of presumed intelligence - and some authority - making it absolutely clear that he has nothing to learn at all.
I'm not sure that a church should be able to discriminate for positions like that (assuming they're paid - more on that below).I agree with exchemist. If it's a custodial or a landscaping job, there should be no discrimination. But if it's a Sunday school teacher, that's another matter. You can then list some religious qualifications on the application form, because it matters.
I have a few thoughts about this.I have an acquaintance who was sort of in this position, although he was a volunteer. His son is gay, and as a consequence, he changed his tune about that, to being supportive, rather than hateful. In discussions with the pastor, they mutually agreed that he would no longer ever teach children or youth there, as it would compromise him, and have a lot of potential for problems. But he is still a volunteer pianist.
If you don't understand how or why other religions have paid employees, Google is your friend.Just wondering how people "work" or get "hired" to do God's work?
God does not "hire".....he is worthy of our service freely given.
If you work for God, you are a volunteer, not an employee.