religiousforums.com has now become politics forums

[Mr Spinkles]

Thing is Americans are like that on every single site.

- X happens in a foreign country
- the people of the foreign country talk about X
- Americans enter the discussion and quickly say that they had the exact same thing except it wasn't
- They now derail the entire topic of X to Z and everyone is annoyed with them

It even happens in real life.
American tourists are notorious to compare every little thing with their US experience and then say the notorious sentence: "We don't do it like this where I am from."


Simply ban US politics as a topic. Problem solved.

Are you referring to threads on RF being derailed outside of the North America Politics forum?

I must be allowed to discuss US politics in the North America Politics forum. I am from Texas. Do you really expect me to discuss politics with just anyone?? I need an outlet.

 

[Harel13]

Americans enter the discussion and quickly say that they had the exact same thing except it wasn't

Huh. Reminds me of a podcast I used to listen to. I got tired of it because the host, when talking to guests, would always interrupt (though not in an abrupt manner) and explain why the issue that the guest is talking about can also be seen, or at least some parallel of it, in the host's community. I kept thinking to myself: Stop! Not everything is about you. So I stopped listening.

 

[Alea iacta est]

It's a little sad to see it. The current things involved in the US politics recently have absolutely nothing to do with religion.

 

[Brian2]

Religiousforums.com has now become politicsforums.
I have nothing more to say than that.

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Politics keeps changing. It's more interesting in that respect.
But of course it has confirmation bias and going around in circles and dead end discussions so it can be just as frustrating.

 

[Flankerl]

Are you referring to threads on RF being derailed outside of the North America Politics forum?

I must be allowed to discuss US politics in the North America Politics forum. I am from Texas. Do you really expect me to discuss politics with just anyone?? I need an outlet.

Another solution would be to not show politics threads in the side bar.
That way you only see them when you go to the specific forum.

 

[Clara Tea]

Look, the past couple of weeks were a bit “wild.” My Google feed is still blowing up with news stories about Republicans jumping ship and the recent riots and I’m not even American.
So it’s naturally going to be at the forefront of people’s minds. Hopefully when Biden is sworn in or whatever America does to its presidents, the forum will return to normal. And we will all move on with our lives.
I hope so anyway

Disappointment cause appointees to be sworn in, and the dis-appointed sworn at. Conditions (debt, COVID) cause disappointment.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And you illustrate your ignorance of what "defund the police" is all about. It's not about actually defunding the police. What it recommends would allow the police to focus more on crime than is currently practicable, rather than being ersatz social workers.

Defunding them won't address the actual issues. Warrior training? It won't ensure it's done away with. Militarized police? It won't reverse it. A corrupt system that heavily favors those with money while crapping on those without? That will still be around. Private prisons? Doesn't address them.

 

[SomeRandom]

Disappointment cause appointees to be sworn in, and the dis-appointed sworn at. Conditions (debt, COVID) cause disappointment.

I’m not American so I’m afraid this post is lost on me. What are you talking about?

 

[McBell]

I’m not American so I’m afraid this post is lost on me. What are you talking about?

If it makes you feel better...
I am an American and it is lost on me as well.

 

[Clara Tea]

And you illustrate your ignorance of what "defund the police" is all about. It's not about actually defunding the police. What it recommends would allow the police to focus more on crime than is currently practicable, rather than being ersatz social workers.

Insults (such as "ignorance") are ad hominem, and, therefore, illogical. You cannot win a debate by insulting someone. Furthermore, you have no website to back up your claim that I am ignorant. (I'll turn the other cheek and assume that it was a lucky guess).

Defund the police - Wikipedia

You say that defunding the police is about getting the police to focus on crime rather than social work. Yet, Wikipedia says the exact opposite (please see the website, above). Widipedia says "reallocating them [the police] to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources."

Next time you insult someone, at least have a website to back up your claim (notice the way I backed up my claim with a website).

I do not respond, in kind, with insults. Rather, I hope that you use respect and sources next time. Some might be embarrassed by the revelation that others found out their secret (I'm ignorant, but no one should have realized that this early in the discussion). I do, however, take IQ magazine (Idiot's Quarterly). It is a yearly publication that is supposed to be sent out every three months (but we're all idiots, so we don't know that). Some were going to get together to protest getting fewer magazines, but none of us could figure out where we were supposed to meet. Since we idiots can't meet in person (can't find the place), we wrote our phone numbers on strips of paper (and still keep them).

 

[oldbadger]

It's not all President Trump's fault!

What about........... 3 years of ........ BREXIT!

 

[McBell]

It's not all President Trump's fault!

Blame in on Twitter.
I mean, it isn't like he can defend himself....

 

[oldbadger]

Blame in on Twitter.
I mean, it isn't like he can defend himself....

Ha ha! Yes! Oh well, Twitter has sorted all that, anyway.
Of course, I was blaming Brexit for a fair quantity of Political threads. We are/were as divided over Brexit as Reps & Dems in the US. As much heat as well, I think.

 

[SomeRandom]

Insults (such as "ignorance") are ad hominem, and, therefore, illogical. You cannot win a debate by insulting someone. Furthermore, you have no website to back up your claim that I am ignorant. (I'll turn the other cheek and assume that it was a lucky guess).

Defund the police - Wikipedia

You say that defunding the police is about getting the police to focus on crime rather than social work. Yet, Wikipedia says the exact opposite (please see the website, above). Widipedia says "reallocating them [the police] to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources."

Next time you insult someone, at least have a website to back up your claim (notice the way I backed up my claim with a website).

I do not respond, in kind, with insults. Rather, I hope that you use respect and sources next time. Some might be embarrassed by the revelation that others found out their secret (I'm ignorant, but no one should have realized that this early in the discussion). I do, however, take IQ magazine (Idiot's Quarterly). It is a yearly publication that is supposed to be sent out every three months (but we're all idiots, so we don't know that). Some were going to get together to protest getting fewer magazines, but none of us could figure out where we were supposed to meet. Since we idiots can't meet in person (can't find the place), we wrote our phone numbers on strips of paper (and still keep them).

Wikipedia is not exactly a reliable source, just FYI

 

[exchemist]

Religiousforums.com has now become politicsforums.
I have nothing more to say than that.

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Now is not a sensible time to draw such a conclusion. Check again in 6 months.

 

[Brian2]

Religiousforums.com has now become politicsforums.
I have nothing more to say than that.

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There is a lot going on in American politics at the moment and maybe it has something to do with religion.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I've been here quite a while. As I recall it's always been a mixture of topics.

Agreed. It goes back and forth.

 

[Valjean]

Insults (such as "ignorance") are ad hominem, and, therefore, illogical. You cannot win a debate by insulting someone. Furthermore, you have no website to back up your claim that I am ignorant. (I'll turn the other cheek and assume that it was a lucky guess).

Defund the police - Wikipedia

You say that defunding the police is about getting the police to focus on crime rather than social work. Yet, Wikipedia says the exact opposite (please see the website, above). Widipedia says "reallocating them [the police] to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources."

Next time you insult someone, at least have a website to back up your claim (notice the way I backed up my claim with a website).

I do not respond, in kind, with insults. Rather, I hope that you use respect and sources next time. Some might be embarrassed by the revelation that others found out their secret (I'm ignorant, but no one should have realized that this early in the discussion). I do, however, take IQ magazine (Idiot's Quarterly). It is a yearly publication that is supposed to be sent out every three months (but we're all idiots, so we don't know that). Some were going to get together to protest getting fewer magazines, but none of us could figure out where we were supposed to meet. Since we idiots can't meet in person (can't find the place), we wrote our phone numbers on strips of paper (and still keep them).

My apologies for any offense, but reread your link: "reallocating them [the police] to non-policing forms of public safety..." does not refer to reallocating the police, but to reallocating public safety funding, so that police would be divested of social work like welfare checks, mental health calls, many traffic and and minor accident reports, &c, which the police don't like, often aren't trained for and which take up a lot of time and paperwork.

Consider -- also from the link:
"Sociologist Rashawn Ray, writing for the Brookings Institution, states that much of what police do is misaligned with their skillset and training, and suggests that a reduction in their workload would increase their ability to solve violent crimes. He further states:

One consistent finding in the social science literature is that if we really want to reduce crime, education equity and the establishment of a work infrastructure is the best approach. A study using 60 years of data found that an increase in funding for police did not significantly relate to a decrease in crime. Throwing more police on the street to solve a structural problem is one of the reasons why people are protesting in the streets. Defunding police—reallocating funding away from police departments to other sectors of government—may be more beneficial for reducing crime and police violence.[57]"

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Religion always gets mixed with politics. Consider the current Trump administration and how closely it aligns with American conservative Christianity.

 

[Vee]

Religiousforums.com has now become politicsforums.
I have nothing more to say than that.

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Given the world environment, it must be hard for people to separate politics from everything else. However, there are different subjects available on RF and if you don't want to talk about politics you can chose other themes. Think of it as a chance to be creative.