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MAGA types attacking

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
But it does make popular view of the group sound questionable.

To whom? To whom does such a trivial difference matter in this context? Maybe in the histories that will be written of this day, but please explain how the difference is of rational importance at the moment?
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
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Confederate battle flags have reached the inside of the capitol. Something that didn't happen in the Civil War.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
What does any of this matter when Kim and Kanye are getting a divorce
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Oh brother.

The American Capitol building is being occupied by armed, violent people trying to shut down a function of the Government key to insuring an orderly transfer of power. But you're right. The issue of the day is whether or not we can properly pin down the precise politics of one of the organizations involved.
 

Vouthon

Dominus Deus tuus ignis consumens est
Staff member
Premium Member
Jeewiz!!! I have never seen scenes like this in years of watching American politics from a distance.

Storming the capitol building, capital police being overwhelmed, busting into the senate chambers, disorderly violence....

Democracy is under assault at the heart of the Republic.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
No they didn't .This is an attempted coup, led by your own Head of State.
And that says it all. At this moment, not his friends nor his WH staffers can reach him -- he's not taking calls. He is the acting leader of this very real coup attempt, and only he can stop it by getting on television right now and telling everybody to stand down.

He wil not -- and this time, I say it with real sorrow. Donald Trump is now a traitor and must be treated as one
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Sure was an astonishingly wise move to acquit him in his impeachment trial. That's worked out so well.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
What I see is people who really believe that Biden stole
the election from Trump. I know those who feel this way,
& I've been unable to dissuade them. But consider what
the crowds are doing & chanting. It's all about the stolen
election.
Efforts to ignore that motive in favor of claiming they're
white supremacists seems unevidenced. Perhaps it
stems from desire to demonize, rather than understand.
And why do they believe the election was stolen? Because they were told that by their leader and his enablers -- lied to continuously for months for precisely this purpose.

Donald Trump is a traitor. Proceed accordingly.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And why do they believe the election was stolen? Because they were told that by their leader and his enablers -- lied to continuously for months for precisely this purpose.

Donald Trump is a traitor. Proceed accordingly.
I've given @polymath permission to use the word, "traitor".
You may too...just don't over-use it. Others may want to.
 

Vouthon

Dominus Deus tuus ignis consumens est
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm shocked how easy, apparently, it was for this mob to overwhelm security by "raiding" and pillaging the capitol building - the "citadel of liberty" - in the country. I mean, it's a de facto siege.

How on earth could this have happened?

They're shutting down congressional activity, an arm of government and roaming around at will! Pipe-bombs, threats outside Nancy Pelosi's office!

It's tantamount - in effective political terms - to what desecrating a sacred place, like St. Peters Basilica, would be in a religious context.

If the capital police had not exercised such consummate restraint, though, a veritable bloodbath might have ensued.

A powerful speech from Joe Biden, I must add.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Listen to how he starts telling people to go home --- by doubling down on the lie, that the election was stolen even though he won in a landslide.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Jeewiz!!! I have never seen scenes like this in years of watching American politics from a distance.

Storming the capitol building, capital police being overwhelmed, busting into the senate chambers, disorderly violence....

Democracy is under assault at the heart of the Republic.
At least these muppets think they're responding to election fraud. In the UK we always seem to be about 15 minutes from a violent insurgency by middle-aged Daily Mail readers foaming and furious about straight bananas.
 
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