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Well, they found the voter fraud...

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member

exchemist

Veteran Member

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Well, it certainly sounds seditious to me. It is a direct attempt, by the President of the United States, to directly pressure a state official to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well, it certainly sounds seditious to me. It is a direct attempt, by the President of the United States, to directly pressure a state official to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
The 500 pound gorilla in the room is that Trump
presumes all voter fraud benefitted Biden. But
human nature & failings afflict the humans in both
parties, so I'd expect to find pro-Trump voter fraud
too. He could very well be hoist with his own petard
when there are thorough investigations.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The 500 pound gorilla in the room is that Trump
presumes all voter fraud benefitted Biden. But
human nature & failings afflict the humans in both
parties, so I'd expect to find pro-Trump voter fraud
too. He could very well be hoist with his own petard
when there are thorough investigations.
I do believe that the very minor cheating so far has been mostly by Trump voters. I do not think there will be significant cheating found for either candidate. When low level cheats are found how are they supposed to get away with it on a massive scale?
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
This would be a problem except that it's established fact that it's impossible for a liberal to use the word "Trump" and think at the same time.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
This would be a problem except that it's established fact that it's impossible for a liberal to use the word "Trump" and think at the same time.
Interesting.
Which side of the conversation do you claim is the "liberal" side?
 

Suave

Simulated character
... it was Trump.

The Washington Post has just released a story - with accompanying audio clip of the phone call - of Trump demanding Georgia's Secretary General to revise the vote counts so that he would win.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Here's hoping this incident gets handled properly... i.e. with criminal charges for Trump.

"The tape shows that, in fact, Raffensperger repeatedly told Trump his various conspiracy theories were all false. Indeed, Georgia’s voting machines create paper records that make the kind of electronic fraud Trump alleges impossible. An audit of the results in Georgia disproved the charges Trump and his allies have been circulating."

Trump Tells Georgia Official to Steal Election in Recorded Call
 
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