why is it important to "Believe"..?

[Heyo]

The bible says that one has to believe in order to be saved... Why..?

Why is believing important?

Also, do I believe other religions require you to believe things.... So what is it with believing?

I'm under the impression that belief has become less and less important even to the believers.
Ever since the Enlightenment "I believe" has lost its value and is replaced by "I know" and "I can prove". No, you don't and you can't but you show how little value you put on just believing.

 

[firedragon]

The bible says that one has to believe in order to be saved... Why..?

Why is believing important?

Also, do I believe other religions require you to believe things.... So what is it with believing?

Everyone believes in something. Just that some of us refuse to accept it.

 

[thomas t]

To me, professing a belief is just about valueless. Walking the talk has meaning. Otherwise, it's just typically empty lip-service.

That can even be found in the BIble: Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will. enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who. does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Let me focus on the red.

Romans 10:9 frankly states: belief in Jesus's resurrection + proclaiming Jesus as Lord, saves.

You said "professing a belief" - it's belief in your heart what counts, maybe you meant exaclty this.

If belief in your heart gets you into a position in which you merely need to proclaim Jesus as Lord and you're saved, according to the Bible.... then it's definitely worth something!


Let me recite an anecdote: a close contact of mine once had trouble with her exams at university. Her mother told her: "Pray, dauther, pray" she answered: "but that's what I'm doung aleady!!" - she was an atheist.

Maybe these are the kinds of folks who say to Jesus "Lord, Lord" in their prayers and this passage is about them. I'm not saying that every atheist prays to God, though.

But I completely agree with you that walking the talk has meaning! It gets you into the Kingdom of Heaven according to this verse you're citing. This is one step further than merely being saved, I think.

 

[ChristineM]

why is it important to "Believe"..?

It is my belief that everyone has belief, not necessarily religious belief. For some those religious beliefs are not important.

 

[WalterTrull]

Very often, adults at least, have to believe they can take a step before they can actually do it.

 

[BilliardsBall]

The bible says that one has to believe in order to be saved... Why..?

Why is believing important?

Also, do I believe other religions require you to believe things.... So what is it with believing?

The better English word for believe is TRUST.

I've trusted Jesus for eternal life. Per the Bible (and logically speaking), only perfect people can live in a utopia. I trust Jesus switched places with us on the cross and will perfect those who trust in Him, to make them eligible for Heaven, and taking our sin, guilt, punishment and shame.

 

[Vinayaka]

The bible says that one has to believe in order to be saved... Why..?

Why is believing important?

Also, do I believe other religions require you to believe things.... So what is it with believing?

I don't think it's a requirement, but a fact of life. Based on the experiments you've had, the books you've read, the people you've associated with, you develop some sort of beliefs, whether you want to or not.

 

[Secret Chief]

Tricky things, words.

I believe it will go dark again tonight. This is not a recent thing.

My cats don't behave in a traumatised manner when it goes dark, so I guess they are up with the program too.

One has to have beliefs or one cannot live. Why else would we have pyjamas?

 

[SalixIncendium]

I believe it will go dark again tonight.

Propaganda.

I didn't see this in the forecast. I guess we shall see.

 

[Secret Chief]

Propaganda.

I didn't see this in the forecast. I guess we shall see.

You North Pole people are nuts.

 

[Secret Chief]

Belief, opinion and trust can sometimes be used interchangeably and create misunderstanding. Some beliefs are supported by established facts (the sun setting) whilst others are purely subjective (the greatest works for solo piano are by Scriabin). Disagreements arise where two parties think that a belief resides in differing categories.

 

[Valjean]

Let me focus on the red.

Romans 10:9 frankly states: belief in Jesus's resurrection + proclaiming Jesus as Lord, saves.

You said "professing a belief" - it's belief in your heart what counts, maybe you meant exaclty this.

If belief in your heart gets you into a position in which you merely need to proclaim Jesus as Lord and you're saved, according to the Bible.... then it's definitely worth something!

But what if the Bible's wrong, and the Gita, or Quran, or Guru Granth Sahib is right?
If it's "belief in your heart" that's important, then all religions have this. But if truth, rather than emotion, is what's important, then your heart is your worst enemy.

 

[rational experiences]

The bible says that one has to believe in order to be saved... Why..?

Why is believing important?

Also, I do believe other religions require you to believe things.... So what is it with believing?

I understand that as we are all present, humans, claiming highest consciousness to discuss concepts as God. For God is not discussing us, yet humans placate that in discussing self you are discussing God.

So then you have to ask why believe in God as God. And what purpose did the teaching own. Relativity actually. Scientific.

If a stone mass planet did not exist then nor would anything after it exist either.

We happen to be that something after God the stone mass planet existed. Hence it is obvious that you needed to agree with the scientific first original science teaching that God O the planet is relative to our life.

Relative as in advice we inter relate relativity with it.

So did science, which is a human choice that proved itself to be a wrong choice.

As the life who chose it, a male, the scientist sacrificed and changed life on Earth.

Relativity about why you needed to believe in the relativity of what God was expressed "as" in science teaching.

So science quotes we own false preachers/theists and correct preachers/theists.

The correct theist quotes....no man is God...seeing the scientist sought the origins of the energy body that allowed him to process his inventive sciences. From the mass energy form itself, the Earth and planet.

Why the presence of God was relative advice in our life to own belief of how important that presence was. What I learnt about being taught correct or incorrect information.

 

[Cooky]

I understand that as we are all present, humans, claiming highest consciousness to discuss concepts as God. For God is not discussing us, yet humans placate that in discussing self you are discussing God.

So then you have to ask why believe in God as God. And what purpose did the teaching own. Relativity actually. Scientific.

If a stone mass planet did not exist then nor would anything after it exist either.

We happen to be that something after God the stone mass planet existed. Hence it is obvious that you needed to agree with the scientific first original science teaching that God O the planet is relative to our life.

Relative as in advice we inter relate relativity with it.

So did science, which is a human choice that proved itself to be a wrong choice.

As the life who chose it, a male, the scientist sacrificed and changed life on Earth.

Relativity about why you needed to believe in the relativity of what God was expressed "as" in science teaching.

So science quotes we own false preachers/theists and correct preachers/theists.

The correct theist quotes....no man is God...seeing the scientist sought the origins of the energy body that allowed him to process his inventive sciences. From the mass energy form itself, the Earth and planet.

Why the presence of God was relative advice in our life to own belief of how important that presence was. What I learnt about being taught correct or incorrect information.

but I'm not discussing God... I'm discussing the human trait called "belief"... How old is belief? How does belief alter humanity, compared to a (would be) humanity that has never experienced it?

...Or is belief a basic biological trait that can be witnessed in chickens, spinning two times left and one time right, then squawking two times in a row in order to recieve something..? Or is that just 'memory' replaying, like from the video we watched earlier in the thread?

...I don't think chickens express belief. I think they have memory.

 

[Cooky]

I don't think it's a requirement, but a fact of life. Based on the experiments you've had, the books you've read, the people you've associated with, you develop some sort of beliefs, whether you want to or not.

Do you think this fact of life existed in the primate species that homo sapiens evolved from? or is it specific to homo sapiens? Do you think it was developed some time during the life of homo sapien, as what might have been considered an avant-guarde idea, that grew in popularity? Or was it an evolved feature we stumbled upon by chance or need?

 

[Cooky]

The better English word for believe is TRUST.

I've trusted Jesus for eternal life. Per the Bible (and logically speaking), only perfect people can live in a utopia. I trust Jesus switched places with us on the cross and will perfect those who trust in Him, to make them eligible for Heaven, and taking our sin, guilt, punishment and shame.

That's a slight difference from other religions like Islam for example, from what little I understand about it.

 

[Cooky]

 

[Vinayaka]

Do you think this fact of life existed in the primate species that homo sapiens evolved from? or is it specific to homo sapiens? Do you think it was developed some time during the life of homo sapien, as what might have been considered an avant-guarde idea, that grew in popularity? Or was it an evolved feature we stumbled upon by chance or need?

I'm fairly sure early primates would have had a memory, as most animals do. So their experiences would determine where to find water, better gathering places, and stuff like that. I have no idea how formal thought or abstract thought would have come into the picture. How that happened is mostly conjecture.

 

[Spirit of Light]

The bible says that one has to believe in order to be saved... Why..?

Why is believing important?

Also, I do believe other religions require you to believe things.... So what is it with believing?

Belief is important in the beginning inntil faith get stronger, faith in teaching lead to better and deeper study. Wisdom from within the true being arise and make you understanding of truth hìghten.

 

[Cooky]

I'm fairly sure early primates would have had a memory, as most animals do. So their experiences would determine where to find water, better gathering places, and stuff like that. I have no idea how formal thought or abstract thought would have come into the picture. How that happened is mostly conjecture.

I think "memory" is different from "belief"... Most animals can remember... But I think belief is exclusive to the human mind.