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Is that something you were told?why is the sin against the holy spirit unforgivable?
Is that something you were told?
Do you believe blasphemy is unforgivable? There are people who go around cutting off heads for such things.matthew 12:31-32
mark 3:28-29
can you hear that still small voice, the voice of the spirit above all that din?
why is the sin against the holy spirit unforgivable?
omnipresence?
pantheistic?
I have never hear that take on it. Interesting.It's the denial/rejection of forgiveness, itself. That's why it's referred to as the "unforgivable sin".
i know sometimes people are their own worse enemies. they find it hard to forgive themselves, to love themselves and in kind project that onto other as selfDo you believe blasphemy is unforgivable? There are people who go around cutting off heads for such things.
matthew 12:31-32
mark 3:28-29
can you hear that still small voice, the voice of the spirit above all that din?
its a direct judgment upon self because self is an aspect of the absoluteIt's the denial/rejection of forgiveness, itself. That's why it's referred to as the "unforgivable sin".
It's the denial/rejection of forgiveness, itself. That's why it's referred to as the "unforgivable sin".
nothing can exist apart from the ALL, the Absolute, and yet it has passed judgement on it as if it could be separate from thatIt has many names. How can you tell without scripture?
Something that's true should stand on its own, no?
Why would we need to feel we need to be forgiven?
Is it something inherent that people must feel they need forgiveness?
why is the sin against the holy spirit unforgivable?
nothing can exist apart from the ALL, the Absolute, and yet it has passed judgement on it as if it could be separate from that
this is the dualistic mind. an aspect of the ALL driving out the ALL, judging an aspect of the All
see? can you see? see? see? see?
mind's eye, the spirit's eye
aye
there are none so blind as those who refuse to look
We all harm others without meaning to (sin against them). And we are all harmed by others, without their meaning to (are sinned against). So we all need to forgive, and to be forgiven. We want to follow the spirit of love, forgiveness, kindness, and generosity (the Divine Spirit), but as humans, we are often unable to. So we need to forgive to find peace in this life.Why would we need to feel we need to be forgiven?
Is it something inherent that people must feel they need forgiveness?
We all harm others without meaning to (sin against them). And we are all harmed by others, without their meaning to (are sinned against). So we all need to forgive, and to be forgiven. We want to follow the spirit of love, forgiveness, kindness, and generosity (the Divine Spirit), but as humans, we are often unable to. So we need to forgive to find peace in this life.
But there are some among us who knowingly and willfully do harm to others. They have rejected the spirit of goodness, and have actively embraced the spirit of selfishness, and 'sin'. For these, there can be no forgiveness, because they have rejected forgiveness as a value. You and I can forgive them, but it will mean nothing to them. They are lost.
This is what that Bible quote means, I believe. And I also believe that it's true. These people have lost their humanity, and become like dumb animals. And they live like pigs and parasites. Willfully beyond the reach of spiritual healing.
We don't need any expectations. To forgive, is to be forgiven. That's what it means to "live by the Spirit".I understand our needing to forgive but I don't find the need to have expectation of someone to forgive us. I know it's nice that others forgive us for our wronging them, but we shouldn't put that expectation on others just because we may want them to do so.
It doesn't. They reject forgiveness as a value, because they've rejected their sins as being sins. They consider their own sins, virtues. So forgiveness is irrelevant.I disagree with that last sentence. It's not about whether they accept our forgiveness. It's about our action and our intention to forgive. The goodness shouldn't depend on the other person's response but by our actions regardless if we feel the other person doesn't value forgiveness.
I think you've misunderstood. The Bible says that as we forgive others, so we are forgiven. It's talking about forgiveness is a state of being. This does not depend on anyone else's choices or actions. And by contrast, when we choose to reject the "Holy Spirit" (the spirit of love, forgiveness, kindness, and generosity) we are rejecting forgiveness for others and for ourselves. And this is how can become "unforgivable" (as well as unlovable, and unkind, and self-obsessed). We can only do it to ourselves, by rejecting the spirit of good, and of healing. No one else can do this to us. Nor can we deny the Spirit to others.Why would one withhold forgiveness based on other people's actions?
you can't be separate from the Absolute. the observer can't be separate from the observed. may not be able to see itself but thats because of it's own inner blindness.I'm not sure this connects what I asked. Without scripture, how do you know the inner voice is from god and not something else?
you can't be separate from the Absolute. the observer can't be separate from the observed. may not be able to see itself but thats because of it's own inner blindness.
god is not something separate from self if it is omnipresent or even infinite for that matter.
a dualistic mind sees it as something otherwise, defines it, tries to give it form; which would then make it dualistic/divided from something else.