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Is Satan a Deity?
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Spiderman
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I vote he is a great powerful but dangerous entity and was the lightbearer Lucifer with the greatest Archangel status.
Satan would have status of a Deity yes , greater than the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian gods on average.
For him to put up a fight with Almighty God and all t
Satan would have status of a Deity yes , greater than the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian gods on average.
For him to put up a fight with Almighty God and all t
Spiderman
Veteran Member
All the Angels for thousands of years makes him like a divinity in my opinion.
Also, I have suspicion Satan does God's will. God knew he was creating someone who would become his opponent, and God made him anyway.
God could stop him and often doesn't, which tells me God is asking for it.
I think Satan entertains and amuses God.
Also, I have suspicion Satan does God's will. God knew he was creating someone who would become his opponent, and God made him anyway.
God could stop him and often doesn't, which tells me God is asking for it.
I think Satan entertains and amuses God.
I agree, when God cast him out of Heaven I believe he gave Satan a job as his adversarial opponent
I think Satan really works for God
I think it is up to us to chose to ignore him and focus instead on God
And that that's the challenge we have to overcome
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Yes and no. Ultimately, whether or not something is a deity depends on a person's perspective.
In the case of Satan, the vast majority of Christians don't consider him a deity and certainly don't worship him as one. In Judaism, Satan is the name given to God's accusing angel. He's the one who speaks against a person, a little like the prosecutor in a court. My understanding is that Satan is more of a title given to an angel rather than that angel's real name.*
Satan wouldn't be considered a god for the majority of people outside the Abrahamic faiths either. Atheists usually don't believe in him at all, though it's entirely possible some do and just don't consider him a deity. Satan also has little, if any, relevance to most people of other religions.
All that said, there are people who believe in Satan and worship him as a deity. Theistic Satanists don't usually interpret Satan as an angel who is a lesser being than God. You also have people who believe in deities from other pantheons who they feel are Satan under another name. My understanding is that Setians view the Egyptian God, Set as being the earliest depiction of Satan.
So to sum it all up, is Satan a deity? The answer is that it depends who you're asking.
*A little note to RF's Jewish members. I'm no expert on Judaism so if I've got any of this wrong, please correct me.
Brian2
Veteran Member
Anything and anyone other than God has been created by God according to the Bible.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Agreed!
God pointed out Job to the Devil and the Devil needed God's permission to kill Job's family and afflict his skin with boils..
The Devil was doing precisely what God wanted him to do.
Satan was in the group of sons of God. And I have understood sons of God in that are angels. That is why I would say Satan is not deity, but he was probably an angel, before he fell.
Now it happened on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Yahweh, that Satan also came among them.
Job 1:6
It is also interesting that Satan is prosecutor in the Bible.
The great dragon was thrown down, the old serpent, he who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now is come the salvation, the power, and the Kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ; for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them before our God day and night. Revelation 12:9-10
And Jesus is the defense attorney.
My little children, I write these things to you so that you may not sin. If anyone sins, we have a Counselor [Greek Parakleton: Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, and Comfortor.] with the Father, Jesus Christ, the righteous.
1 John 2:1
I would recommend to contact the good attorney, before the last judgment.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
After reading the old testament I dont blame Satan for wanting to get the hell out of Dodge.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I understand:
- There is no triune G-d. Right, please?
- Satan is un-divine. Right, please?
- Satan shares nothing with G-d. Right, please?
- Jesus/Buddha and Krishna also should not be worshiped. Right, please?
Regards
You are right in your opinion, yes.
Yeah, they do and it's total nonsense. It's like how Wiccans used to claim that it was the "old religion" instead of the truth that it was something made up in the mid 20th century. The Temple of Set is very dogmatic and takes Aquino's alleged channeled texts from "Set" as holy writ.
2 Corinthians 4:4
Oh dear....! so....God is a vicious persecutor of his own worshippers....how on earth does that work?
How can a God of love be the one who commissions a criminal to make sure that his laws are upheld? That is not the God I know.
Once satan had rebelled, of his own free will, and hijacked the human race for his own selfish purpose, then God used that rebellion to teach his children why he wanted to withhold the "knowledge of good and evil" from them at the outset. It was never going to benefit them. But now that "the genie was out of the bottle" (so to speak) there was no going back. He would use the rebellion to teach all of his children valuable lessons about the consequences of disobedience.
So seeing the devil as a deliberate agent of wickedness, commissioned by the Father, is a pretty sick concept and in no way portrays the God of the Bible IMO.
I'm sorry, but...God working against His own purposes?
That makes no sense to me!
Why pray for God's "will (to be) done on Earth" - Matthew 6:9-10 - if He's working against them?
No, all intelligent creatures have their own Free Will.
You're right in one way....it is up to us to make wise choices! The Bible can help us!
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Who is "god of this world" in 2 Corinthians 4:4 , please?
Is it satan ? Right, please?
Regards
Yes.
Best regards to you too, my cousin
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Hockeycowboy said: ↑
2 Corinthians 4:4
Which book of the NT is "gospel of Christ" that Jesus wrote, please?
Regards
Thanks for calling me a cousin #17 in love
2 Corinthians 4:4
"gospel of Christ"
Which book of the NT is "gospel of Christ" that Jesus wrote, please?
Regards
Thanks for calling me a cousin #17 in love
SeekerOnThePath
On a mountain between Nietzsche and Islam
In Christianity "he" is definitely deified as almost part of the trinity.
Christianity basically took things through the Madzakite, Sethian and Manichaean lens whether they admit it or not.
For many who lack wisdom, they inevitably turn Satan into God and God into Satan. Or call someone else's "God" Satan.
There are many ironies I could go through with this and hermenutical errors of Christians with both the Tanakh and the New Testament.
What I think though at the end of it, is that Satan is (for most people) actually just a black category that people fill to fit their views. It fills the spot of the perceived 'enemy' which is then turned into a cosmic thing.
Satan however is literally a thing in our minds, it is not an omniscient entity. And it is certainly not God. People never think this stuff through very well. Satan is a virus in our minds, it has no existence outside of it. That is why Satan wrecks so much havoc.
Christianity basically took things through the Madzakite, Sethian and Manichaean lens whether they admit it or not.
For many who lack wisdom, they inevitably turn Satan into God and God into Satan. Or call someone else's "God" Satan.
There are many ironies I could go through with this and hermenutical errors of Christians with both the Tanakh and the New Testament.
What I think though at the end of it, is that Satan is (for most people) actually just a black category that people fill to fit their views. It fills the spot of the perceived 'enemy' which is then turned into a cosmic thing.
Satan however is literally a thing in our minds, it is not an omniscient entity. And it is certainly not God. People never think this stuff through very well. Satan is a virus in our minds, it has no existence outside of it. That is why Satan wrecks so much havoc.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
But Jesus did not deify satan, please? Right, please?
If yes, then please quote from Jesus. Right, please?
Regards