Not recognizing the divine

[MNoBody]

The rumors I have pieced together suggest that the Buddha had indicated that the next manifestation would not be a single individual, but would be a flowering of the right mindfulness in many people, the buddha nature in other words, and that this would be the right path...other traditions seem to indicate this as well....
and we certainly need to end the cult of personality dominance insanity that has prevailed here for so long.... if not we may as well truss ourselves up and submit and accept the boot on the neck......

 

[Salty Booger]

every time we re-spawn [re-incarnate] people have become a blank slate and have become disconnected with their authentic self

We get caught up in life's games. You can't get away from them without living in a cave. I'm not complaining. It's fun and I get to laugh a lot in the process.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Other realms of beings, similar to our universe but not visible to human eyes.
Some call it spiritual realm ( heaven is one)

So 99% is conjecture.

 

[MNoBody]

So 99% is conjecture.

which defines all of this genre of things "spiritual" of a "sacred" nature.
99% conjecture and speculation, 1% substance.

 

[Spirit of Light]

So 99% is conjecture.

To me it is 100% true, what others believe is up to them

 

[Trailblazer]

But IF humanity becomes "too good" THEN there will be no need for Divine Incarnations to descent on earth

I do not think it is possible for humans to become TOO GOOD, since there is no end to how good we can become, given we all have the potential to reflect the attributes of God, who is perfect....

Also, I believe we will always need the messages from the Messengers to guide us in our lives on earth and prepare us for life the spiritual world.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I've been thinking more about this thread and @SalixIncendium did point out an error in my thinking in the OP that went like this:

1. Many Abrahamic incarnations according to religious history have been tortured.

2. Someone like Krishna may be considered on their caliber in terms of the divine.

3. Therefore, other faiths such as Hinduism should also be worried.

This was a fallacious way of thinking though. I'm sorry.

I do not think you have to be sorry.

It could be that Hinduism faces great change in the years ahead, as the realisation we are one people with One God becomes apparent in the hearts of humanity.

It could be that outdated religious doctrines and predudices are the greatest hurdles, that really is the answer to your OP.

Free will allows us not to see it that way, but in the end, no matter what we think and practice, truth will prevail. History has shown civilizations are born and vanish and the cycles continue.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

One day I hope to read posts from you that contain more of your own words than Baha'u'llah's.

There are many such posts, and you would not have to look very hard to find them.

If all I did was copy/paste scriptures, I would not be on this forum all day and night.

 

[Jainarayan]

Did Krishna do the same?

As a Vaishnava, for me Krishna knows past, present and future. Omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent... svayam bhagavān... the Lord Himself.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

So what does society need to change about itself and its rule such that all peoples are respected, that history isn't repeated with people mocking, abusing, imprisoning, or even killing each other?

Answer this and you'll have your answer.

I see those questions have been answered. Thus I see it needs to be continually stressed, so more can consider it has merit.

The Key lays in the Oneness of Humanity and that humanity has been guided by One God.

Thus we must work together for the good of all, a unity in our diversity.

That unity can not happen until our oneness becomes the reality. That reality will not be considered until we face more convulsions and a greater calamity brought on by our disunity of nations, races, genders and faiths.

Regards Tony

 

[Jainarayan]

But from the little i do know about Vaishnavism, and Gaudiya Vaishnavism in particular, Krishna is God, period. He's not separate from God, so he would never refer to God as something different.

BOOYAH!!! ^— this right here.

 

[Twilight Hue]

To me it is 100% true, what others believe is up to them

Thats the definition if conjecture. Its your own ideology that you believe 100% to be true.

 

[Ancient Soul]

So what does society need to change about itself and its rule such that when the next manifestation of God or the divine comes, that religious history isn't repeated with people mocking, abusing, imprisoning, or even killing the manifestation of the divine?

That won't ever happen because God is purely spiritual in nature.

Such "man-gods" are just false man made God constructs, mythologies, that were invented so that the primitive people of the times could relate to, something their small minds could handle.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

That won't ever happen because God is purely spiritual in nature.

Such "man-gods" are just false man made God constructs, mythologies, that were invented so that the primitive people of the times could relate to, something their small minds could handle.

I'd say Bahaullah was real - the only question was whether he was who he says he was.

 

[Ancient Soul]

That won't ever happen because God is purely spiritual in nature.

Such "man-gods" are just false man made God constructs, mythologies, that were invented so that the primitive people of the times could relate to, something their small minds could handle.

I'd say Bahaullah was real - the only question was whether he was who he says he was.

So you think this "Bahaullah" was a "god"?

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

So you think this "Bahaullah" was a "god"?

No. I think he was a real person.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I'll be more clear though - I think Bahaullah wasn't a god but just a spiritual teacher on a slightly higher plane than me but that some people can reach through their own enlightenment and awakening - that level of spirituality.

 

[Ancient Soul]

That won't ever happen because God is purely spiritual in nature.

Such "man-gods" are just false man made God constructs, mythologies, that were invented so that the primitive people of the times could relate to, something their small minds could handle.

No. I think he was a real person.

Then I'm not following how that fits my comments.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Then I'm not following how that fits my comments.

I interpreted your post as meaning you seemed to think these people never existed. Krishna, Jesus, etc. However there is proof one of them, Bahaullah, existed. They just might not have been who they say they are.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

As for why I'd kiss Bahaullah's ring if I just see him as an enlightened spiritual teacher and that's it... I would kiss the ring of most people I recognized as enlightened spiritual teachers. Doesn't make me a Baha'i though, I disagree with them on numerous other things and there are quite a few.