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Who are the Proud Boys? Start here.

exchemist

Veteran Member
Hang on ... the article quotes the bylaw as saying "No heterosexual brother of the Fraternity shall masturbate more than one time in any calendar month" (emphasis added).

Of course. Now it all makes sense.
So....that means all the ones with thick glasses are gay, then? :confused:
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Trump Tries to Step Out of the Proud Boys Mess He Created
Asked by CNN host John Berman what the president meant by asking the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by,” the Trump flack replied that the president “wants them to get out of the way” and “not do the things they say they want to do.”
That's more than a stretch. Why do Trump's people always have to "clarify" his comments?

Hours later on MSNBC, Trump senior campaign adviser Jason Miller gave his interpretation of what Trump meant with his “stand by” message to the far-right group. Asked by host Chuck Todd what the president wants the group to do following his message, Miller claimed Trump was calling for extremist groups to “stand by the wayside and get out of the way” of law enforcement.
So, stand by means get out of the way. That's a new one. Why do Trump's people always have to "clarify" his comments?



The Proud Boys celebrated Trump’s remarks on Tuesday night, seeing Trump’s refusal to denounce them as a sign of his support. The group redesigned their logo on Tuesday night to incorporate “stand back, stand by” as a new slogan.
Honesty from the mouths of the horses.

Others went further. Joe Biggs, a prominent Proud Boy who has worn shirts declaring “I’m Just Here for the Violence” and celebrating the executions of left-wing Chilean activists thrown from helicopters, posted that Trump’s remarks were permission to “go **** them up.”

“Trump basically said to go **** them up!” Biggs wrote on Parler, a social media network popular with conservatives. “This makes me so happy.”
And more...
Extremist groups like the Proud Boys saw Trump’s debate remarks as a “green light,” according to Lindsay Schubiner, a program director at the left-leaning Western States Center, which tracks the Proud Boys and other far-right groups.
The ProudBoys didn't need any clarifications.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
A lot of people getting deafened is why this creep is still in office at all. They've already demonstrated they are unfit to hold public office on a regular basis. Obvious support of what is basically domestic terrorism on top that? It's inexcusable.

On the plus side, to restore some sanity into the conversation, I suggest folks give this article a gander: Election violence in November? Here’s what the research says


"In the U.S., if any political leader calls for vigilantes to mobilize, both the federal government and states have the capacity to expeditiously eliminate this threat. Militias may be armed, but they are no match for a well-trained National Guard or Army regiment. This should help deter the risk of violence by vigilantes."

I'm not familiar with these kinds of laws in the US. But can't Trump order the national Guard to support vigilantes who support him? Can a general or anyone just override his decision?
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
That's the first time I ever heard of them. Now, my curiosity is piqued. Who are the Proud Boys? I start here:

Perhaps they are concerned about the election getting stolen? If so, why? Perhaps they have been led to think that voter fraud is rampant. That is of concern if they truly believe that and are thinking of military action. They call themselves Chauvinist which sounds anti feminist. It suggests they believe feminism is somehow their opponent. They do seem dangerous, however I think its best to let the FBI determine what their deal is without assuming too much and starting a fight.

Did you guys see the Onion video of the Pennsylvania steelworker who read 800 pages of queer-feminist literature? You should. I won't post it here, because I'm too chicken and its generally insulting to all concerned. It totally worth it though no matter who you are. Go see it.

I also suggest toning down the accusation of 'Nazi' unless somebody claims to be one. The Nazis believed in strength through breeding and elimination of the weak. I won't presume anybody is a Nazi or a racist. It is quite the insult, far too much to bring into the conversation unless someone is specifically claiming to be a Nazi or holds to those evil ideals. Even if they have associated with Nazis I'll just leave at least a dotted line for them to jump across.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I'm not familiar with these kinds of laws in the US. But can't Trump order the national Guard to support vigilantes who support him? Can a general or anyone just override his decision?
The president can't support vigilantism and the military isn't for domestic law enforcement. (Although the National Guard can be called to help with civil unrest, but that's about it and it's up to a state's governor to call them in, usually.)
 
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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Did you know, one of their “initiation rituals” involves getting beaten up whilst listing off breakfast cereals?
No I am not making that up, I learnt that from watching Thought Slime’s video on them.
For reference
I’ve seen them on the world news every now and then. Even through the ultra neutral lens of SBS they seemed fashy to me.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't know that these things are comparable... I don't know that I really trust the perceptions of others well enough to form judgements for me.

...I'd have to meet some Proud Boys first, for myself, before I can make a judgement call.

Why? Just look at what they themselves claim, and judge that.
I never met Pol Pot, but I've done a little research. I'm quite comfortable denouncing him.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
During last night's debate between Biden and Trump,
  • "...Trump was confronted by Biden about his leniency toward white supremacists and right-wing militias, and he was asked by moderator Chris Wallace to publicly condemn them. He didn’t do that, although he did address one such group, the Proud Boys. He said:

    "Proud Boys stand back, and stand by, but I’ll tell you what, somebody’s got to do something about Antifa and the left because this is not a right wing problem this is a left wing." Who are the Proud Boys?
That's the first time I ever heard of them. Now, my curiosity is piqued. Who are the Proud Boys? I start here:
  • Proud Boys
    • "Established in the midst of the 2016 presidential election by VICE Media co-founder Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys are self-described “western chauvinists” who adamantly deny any connection to the racist “alt-right,” insisting they are simply a fraternal group spreading an “anti-political correctness” and “anti-white guilt” agenda."
    • "Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers."
Gee, they're "good ol' boys" ... :D:D:D
Alternatively Biden said Antifa was essentially a concept. The man is blind as a bat when it comes to his own gaggle of radicals. So it's essentially a pot calling the kettle black as far as I'm concerned.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
What I always thought was funny about the Proud Boys is that their founder, Gavin McInnis, is a hipster douche. Like all hipsters, he's very vain about his looks and is hardly a great example of masculinity. He probably hasn't done a bit of manual labor in his life and hasn't been in a real fight. These types care more about hair product than they do about engaging in traditionally masculine pursuits (besides drinking beer, but even then it's snobby craft beer and not the beer working men drink). He's just a sissy middle class white boy who is a tuff guy in his own mind. It's really quite hilarious.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
But this thread is based on perceptions of the Proud Boys. Here, you seem to take issue if someone doesn't hate them based on what partisan people say. And when I defend my position you seem to try and paint me as a hypocrite.

The whole sordid affair summed up here...


Biden can't even provide a name of a specific group that is behind the proud boys and is equally dismissive at recognizing Antifa as nothing more than an idea.

And people here are accusing Trump of things when Biden is just as bad himself?

I would surmise the late Mr.Byrd taught Biden well in the art of dismissivness and hypocrisy.
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
I don't know that these things are comparable... I don't know that I really trust the perceptions of others well enough to form judgements for me.

...I'd have to meet some Proud Boys first, for myself, before I can make a judgement call.
Like you met all those Antifa and BLM activists that you're convinced are Marxist terrorists?
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
I also suggest toning down the accusation of 'Nazi' unless somebody claims to be one. The Nazis believed in strength through breeding and elimination of the weak. I won't presume anybody is a Nazi or a racist. It is quite the insult, far too much to bring into the conversation unless someone is specifically claiming to be a Nazi or holds to those evil ideals. Even if they have associated with Nazis I'll just leave at least a dotted line for them to jump across.
In my case, you are mistaking statements of fact for accusations.

But sure, let's entertain the notion that you can never tell whether anybody is a Nazi until they've murdered at least 10 million people while flying Swastikah flags and goosestepping in brown uniforms. What exactly does that bring to the conversation other than "well those guys are not literally Hitler yet"?
 
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