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Just for people that like animals

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Back in the UK our cat adopted a hedgehog that lived under our garden shed.

She walked with it when it went walk about, fed it with her cat food and sat by the shed for it to come out.

The hedgehog was not phased by the cat and seemed to welcome her company.
 

Hellbound Serpiente

Active Member
I thought I would post some necrophilia, rape, infanticide and other cruelty common among animals to show they are not so different from humans, if not worse.

Such cases are rare in nature. Cruelty abounds
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Is not cruelty a human concept? "Intentional pain" does not fully define "cruelty." What makes it cruel or not is the motivation behind it. So for example a lion killing the young males of others is to maintain territorial supremacy, it is not because of some sick pleasure.

Cats can have hours of fun tormenting a mouse or bird, lizard or snake before they eventually kill it. To me that is cruelty.

But typically an animal does not play with its food before eating?
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Cats can have hours of fun tormenting a mouse or bird, lizard or snake before they eventually kill it. To me that is cruelty.

But typically an animal does not play with its food before eating?
I believe not. I think the hunting and hunger parts of a cat's brain are separate so they will often maintain attacking behaviours but not kill and immediately eat if they are not hungry.
 

Hellbound Serpiente

Active Member
You guys are arguing over semantics. Regardless the literal meaning of the term "cruelty", my point is our empathy oriented brains are not really common among animals [even in humans, to me it seems empathy is rare (and human history backs me up on that)].

Even if I were to go with the literal meaning of the term cruelty, there are many cases in animals where they cause intentional harm just to derive sadistic sick pleasure from it. like one example given by Christine, and necrophilia, rape, infanticide and other examples I've come across.

My point is, nature as a whole is brutal and devoid of goodness. None of us are important in this planet.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
None of us are important in this planet.
Agree for the most part it is survival of the fittest :D

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Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Even if I were to go with the literal meaning of the term cruelty

That'll be arguing over semantics then :rolleyes:

"just to derive sadistic sick pleasure"

How have you ascertained this?

"nature as a whole is .... devoid of goodness"

Nature just is. "Goodness" is a human concept, it lives in our minds only.
 
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Tambourine

Well-Known Member
You guys are arguing over semantics. Regardless the literal meaning of the term "cruelty", my point is our empathy oriented brains are not really common among animals [even in humans, to me it seems empathy is rare (and human history backs me up on that)].

Even if I were to go with the literal meaning of the term cruelty, there are many cases in animals where they cause intentional harm just to derive sadistic sick pleasure from it. like one example given by Christine, and necrophilia, rape, infanticide and other examples I've come across.

My point is, nature as a whole is brutal and devoid of goodness. None of us are important in this planet.
We can be utterly unimportant and still do good.
When there is no reason for existence, there is no reason to be a jerk to others, either.
 
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