MNoBody
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I said what I thought,[about that] what's the question then?There may cases in which people get justice from court, and there are many cases where people don't get. How do you look at this ?
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I said what I thought,[about that] what's the question then?There may cases in which people get justice from court, and there are many cases where people don't get. How do you look at this ?
You mean you are relax with injustice ?
No. Why on earth would you think there is a god that will provide justice? Is this a god that allows children to die of cancers before having a life of their own? Is this a god with ultimate power who allows humans to commit atrocities. Is this the god that failed to stop Christians murdering in gods name? Is this the god that knows all and what will happen thus eliminating the concept of free will? What justice is this?Scenario: somebody did something very very wrong with you without any reason. You being the victim went to the court for justice, but, failed to provide any solid evidence/proofs to court to punish that accused. Person exonerated from the court.
No God exist at all. Fine.
But, taking the above scenario into consideration, do non-believers EXPECT that there must be God to provide them justice ?
Actually this is my question NOT yours.1. Why would you POSSIBLY expect ANYTHING from something you have no reason to believe exists?
Okay, then let me ask this way.No. The two topics (justice and belief in God) are unrelated.
Scenario: somebody did something very very wrong with you without any reason. You being the victim went to the court for justice, but, failed to provide any solid evidence/proofs to court to punish that accused. Person exonerated from the court.
No God exist at all. Fine.
But, taking the above scenario into consideration, do non-believers EXPECT that there must be someone to provide them justice ?
Life is chance, random, uncertain, probable. One might be mugged and there might not be any witnesses or saviors. Just wipe your face and carry on.There may cases in which people get justice from court, and there are many cases where people don't get. How do you look at this ?
Scenario: somebody did something very very wrong with you without any reason. You being the victim went to the court for justice, but, failed to provide any solid evidence/proofs to court to punish that accused. Person exonerated from the court.
No God exist at all. Fine.
But, taking the above scenario into consideration, do non-believers EXPECT that there must be someone to provide them justice ?
What does the sparrow think as it is snatched by a hawk?
What does the child think as it is knocked down by the speeding car?
I wonder what the victims of Pol Pot's government thought?
Life is a lottery...... and good fortune (where I live) is a Lady ...... Lady Luck.
Actually this is my question NOT yours.
Okay, I just take out the word God from my question.
It becomes.. Do non-believers EXPECT that there must be someone to provide them justice ? (Or please read the OP I have edited)
Now, do you care to answer please ?
But, still you didn't tell why you take that as injustice, why NOT take as accident ?What a revealing response. It indicates that what you believe is in based solely on what you WANT to believe. If you WANT someone who did you an injustice who escaped it in the legal system to be punished then you simply decided that there MUST be a god being who will eventually dispense the justice you think they deserve. And that anyone who hasn't deluded themselves into believing there's a god being to dispense justice must somehow not have a problem with injustice.
That doesn't have anything to do with the OP question.No. Why on earth would you think there is a god that will provide justice? Is this a god that allows children to die of cancers before having a life of their own? Is this a god with ultimate power who allows humans to commit atrocities. Is this the god that failed to stop Christians murdering in gods name? Is this the god that knows all and what will happen thus eliminating the concept of free will? What justice is this?
But, taking the above scenario into consideration, do non-believers EXPECT that there must be someone to provide them justice ?
But, still you didn't tell why you take that as injustice, why NOT take as accident ?
Sparrow cannot provide witness on "RF". Perhaps, want justice.What does the sparrow think as it is snatched by a hawk?
What does the child think as it is knocked down by the speeding car?
I wonder what the victims of Pol Pot's government thought?
Life is a lottery...... and good fortune (where I live) is a Lady ...... Lady Luck.
No.Nor do believers either.Scenario: somebody did something very very wrong with you without any reason. You being the victim went to the court for justice, but, failed to provide any solid evidence/proofs to court to punish that accused. Person exonerated from the court.
No God exist at all. Fine.
But, taking the above scenario into consideration, do non-believers EXPECT that there must be someone to provide them justice ?
This question is for non-believers.No.Nor do believers either.
........... to walk with kings, nor yet lose the common touch......Reminded me of the old Kipling quote...
If you can meet success and failure and treat them both as impostors, then you are a balanced man, my son.