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"Get Out of Her"

blü 2

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Such a small thing yet people have lost their lives to human fault. All the money in the world will not (1) stop the destruction of lives and habitat on the west coast of the U.S. and (2) will not bring back those who have died. Oh, and lest I forget, the government should have enough money to help people, don't you think? Yet with all the charities people are still starving in various places of the world. And many homeless in the U.S.
Don't stand there wringing your hands, get on with doing something about it.

Don't sweat on perfection, don't worry about not succeeding or about being embarrassed, just kick in and act.

Think of it as justification by good works. There's no shortage of good works waiting to be done.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Don't stand there wringing your hands, get on with doing something about it.

Don't sweat on perfection, don't worry about not succeeding or about being embarrassed, just kick in and act.

Think of it as justification by good works. There's no shortage of good works waiting to be done.
Man alive, is it that you don't want to hear? You by all your good works are not going to resurrect anyone. (Many people have died from viruses. Plus.) When a person dies, the funeral costs can be quite hefty. The family suffers usually to pay the way. Among other forms of suffering. No matter how many good works are done, the reality remains.
Yes -- it's nice when people help people. But no use wringing hands, according to you about all those who died in the fires so far, right? It's just -- ah -- too bad, I suppose some might say, while they're glad it didn't happen to them.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Don't stand there wringing your hands, get on with doing something about it.

Don't sweat on perfection, don't worry about not succeeding or about being embarrassed, just kick in and act.

Think of it as justification by good works. There's no shortage of good works waiting to be done.
You're not going to solve mankind's problems. A lot of people that want to do the good works you talk about are not going to solve mankind's problems. Now why is it, do you think, that a simple enough thing like paving the roads properly can't be done? Not enough people like yourself to get it done properly? Literally lives are at stake. So why can't it get done? No hand-wringing here -- just how about being honest?
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Man alive, is it that you don't want to hear?
There's already enough whining in the world to fill the quota many time over.

Facta non verba, as the Romans are said to have said.
You by all your good works are not going to resurrect anyone.
Neither is anyone else. The dead have had their time and are dead. We mourn them if they're ours, but the game is about the living.
 

blü 2

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Premium Member
You're not going to solve mankind's problems. A lot of people that want to do the good works you talk about are not going to solve mankind's problems.
Think globally, act locally. We each can make a difference, but it starts by wanting to and doing.
Now why is it, do you think, that a simple enough thing like paving the roads properly can't be done?
Round my way it's done and done well. Maybe you should want to elect better political leaders and be willing to pay sufficient taxes.
Not enough people like yourself to get it done properly? Literally lives are at stake. So why can't it get done? No hand-wringing here -- just how about being honest?
You're really determined to defend your right to ***** about things instead of working on solutions, eh? Have a nice day.
 
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Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Clearly, whatever it is that is responsible for all of the bloodshed of *all* the human race can't be a person. They can't be her. It can't be something that only exists in our period of History, or some group of people. It has to be more broad....

Excellent deduction.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
There's already enough whining in the world to fill the quota many time over.

Facta non verba, as the Romans are said to have said.
Neither is anyone else. The dead have had their time and are dead. We mourn them if they're ours, but the game is about the living.
Think globally, act locally. We each can make a difference, but it starts by wanting to and doing.
Round my way it's done and done well. Maybe you should want to elect better political leaders and be willing to pay sufficient taxes.
You're really determined to defend your right to ***** about things instead of working on solutions, eh? Have a nice day.
You too, have a nice day, and watch out when the waters rise on the coastline cities and countries due to icebergs melting, hope all the good resources from people can stop the situation. :) In areas where coal mining is a main industry, nobody really cares about the ruination of the earth. And few care about oil spills (stopping them before they start), but many do-gooders come out to wash the birds once it happens.
Best to you. As for myself, common sense tells the situation is -- hopeless according to man's dealings. Washing a few birds and maybe giving a few dollars to a homeless person is nice.
Anyway, have a good evening.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
There's already enough whining in the world to fill the quota many time over.

Facta non verba, as the Romans are said to have said.
Neither is anyone else. The dead have had their time and are dead. We mourn them if they're ours, but the game is about the living.
If I were not to tell the truth about the reality of the "world," I'd be playing games. Like you.
 
What if there was imminent danger and you were given a warning to get clear?

Something that comes to my mind was when I was a kid and Mt Saint Helens became active. It started to spew smoke, many small tremors growing in intensity and size, leading scientists to declare that an eruption was eminent and to evacuate the mountain.

What happened to the people who didn't listen to the warnings given long in advance? Many people refused to listen, some were on the mountain hiking, camping. I read of a person who lived on the mountain and said he would never leave his home. Well, all of them died because they refused to heed the warning message.

Now, let's put another scenario. You're walking by an apartment building on an urban street and you clearly see flames coming out of the windows above and you notice that some of the occupants are unaware of the danger. Would you feel it now your responsibility to act and warn the occupants the apartment complex is on fire? If some of the people who were ignorant of the danger died because they received no warning, and you were able to warn them, would you have a guilty conscience? Would you indeed be responsible for their deaths, in part, by not warning them?

Now with those examples in mind read the prophecy in Revelation 18:4. It is directed to God's people who are in "her." They are told to get out of her, because if they don't they will share with her in her sins and receive the plagues she receives:

"And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues."-Revelation 18:4.

This is an ominous warning. The voice is from heaven. If you read the context it talks about a world-wide organization that is given a mystery name Babylon the great. She is called a prostitute that commits sexual immorality with the kings of the earth.

So here is the question...does a warning like this stir you to think? If you are part of her surely you want to know!

Why are God's people warned to get out of her? Who is she?

Notice that she is held responsible for the bloodshed of all humankind in God's eyes:

"Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”-Revelation 18:24.

To those who think God will never hold people and organizations responsible for their actions. What does this tell you about him? He says about her:

"For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind.  Repay her in the way she treated others, yes, pay her back double for the things she has done; in the cup she has mixed, mix a double portion for her. To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning."-Revelation 18:5-7.

How does it feel to know that God is going to hold everyone and every organization accountable for their acts? And the way they deal is the way they will be dealt with?

How does it make you feel to know there is no one too mighty to surpass heaven? Does not even scripture state:


"If you see any oppression of the poor and a violation of justice and righteousness in your district, do not be surprised about the matter. For that high official is being watched by one who is higher than he is, and there are others who are still higher than they are."-Ecclesiastes 5:8.

So who is she? Who would want to remain part of this bloodguilty world-wide empire? And who knows and is warning before it is too late?


The "her" refers to "Babylon the Great." They are one-in-the-same. Both refer/mean the World Empire of False Religion.
 
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