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the most arrogant thing in the universe?

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
Some musings about the relative complexity of the human brain:

This article: https://today.uconn.edu/2018/03/complicated-object-universe/ quotes theoretical physicist Michio Kaku, who had declared:

“The human brain has 100 billion neurons, each neuron connected to 10,000 other neurons. Sitting on your shoulders is the most complicated object in the known universe.”

(my emphasis)

Well, I believe there are things that have been previously unknown to us but that are now becoming known, and that these things are notably more complex than the human brain. Allow me to explain...

Here is a pic of Jane Goodall with a chimpanzee. She is famous for living amongst such creatures. She actually the first person to observe them using tools:

chimp.jpg


Here is a drawing of some "Greys" interacting with a human, as imagined by an artist. Some people claim the "Greys" (named after their grey complexion) are extra-terrestrials, from other planets, but I think they are the Over-Seers of The Simulation, as they appear when they plug themselves into The Simulation (which I believe they sometimes do):

aliens.jpg


When Jane Goodall wanted to study chimpanzees she went to Africa and lived amongst some of them.

I believe that when our friends The Greys wanted to study humanity they built The Simulation.

There are still groups of chimpanzees living in the wild, although there are probably many more living in zoos and safari parks.

However, I believe humans are extinct in the universe outside The Simulation, and the whole point of The Simulation is to re-create humankind. The greys therefore re-created humankind. Or at least, they are simulating humankind!

"The Greys" are to us as we are to Chimpanzees. And they have developed super-human artificial intelligence what is massively superior to any biological intellect. Indeed, it is super-human.

My point being...

This (see pic below) is not the most complex thing in the known universe, even though these things themselves may carry on arrogantly thinking they are.

But maybe they can claim the distinction of being the most arrogant things in the universe!


human brain.jpg

What do I think is the most complex thing in the known universe?

I'd say this simulated universe, that we are all parts of.

There are at least 7,000,000,000 human minds that are all conscious and that all need simulating - and that's just those who live in The Simulation who reside on planet Earth! And all the animal minds would need simulating too. And much of the physical world. It is an incredible feat of engineering.

It must take a lot of computing power, and they have obviously solved the problem of consciousness - as we are all conscious!

As Arthur C Clarke said:

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Thinking along the same lines, I believe:

The over-seers of any sufficiently detailed simulation are indistinguishable from God, to those who reside within their simulation.

I believe humankind is entering into a period of "disclosure", in which the simulated nature of reality will begin to become apparent. When this happens, our brains won't be able to carry on pretending to each other that they are the most complex things that exist.

When this happens our brains will be truly humbled.​
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I'm sure you may have a valid point somewhere in your post, but that 'drawing' of the "Greys" is a scene out of "Close Encounters Of The Third Kind"; which, of course, was a work of fiction.
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
"Close Encounters Of The Third Kind"
Yes, I've actually seen that film, I like how the protagonist goes mad and builds a replica mountain inside his house. I didn't recognise that shot though...

was a work of fiction.
I know it was

But there are no real pictures of The Greys available for me to illustrate the post with :(
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Yes, I've actually seen that film, I like how the protagonist goes mad and builds a replica mountain inside his house. I didn't recognise that shot though...


I know it was

But there are no real pictures of The Greys available for me to illustrate the post with :(

Cool movie. That was at the end when he was boarding the space ship.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Thinking along the same lines, I believe:

The over-seers of any sufficiently detailed simulation are indistinguishable from God, to those who reside within their simulation.
did you take the red pill?
or the blue one?
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
I'd say this simulated universe, that we are all parts of.
To me it still raises the questions of where that simulator exists, because wherever that is, that is our universe. The same questions need answering. Who makes the simulator? Where do they come from? Why and how do they exist? Are they in a simulation, too?
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
To me it still raises the questions of where that simulator exists, because wherever that is, that is our universe. The same questions need answering. Who makes the simulator? Where do they come from? Why and how do they exist? Are they in a simulation, too?


Oooh...you're making my head hurt.....
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Some musings about the relative complexity of the human brain:

This article: https://today.uconn.edu/2018/03/complicated-object-universe/ quotes theoretical physicist Michio Kaku, who had declared:

“The human brain has 100 billion neurons, each neuron connected to 10,000 other neurons. Sitting on your shoulders is the most complicated object in the known universe.”

(my emphasis)

Well, I believe there are things that have been previously unknown to us but that are now becoming known, and that these things are notably more complex than the human brain. Allow me to explain...

Here is a pic of Jane Goodall with a chimpanzee. She is famous for living amongst such creatures. She actually the first person to observe them using tools:

View attachment 42500

Here is a drawing of some "Greys" interacting with a human, as imagined by an artist. Some people claim the "Greys" (named after their grey complexion) are extra-terrestrials, from other planets, but I think they are the Over-Seers of The Simulation, as they appear when they plug themselves into The Simulation (which I believe they sometimes do):

View attachment 42501

When Jane Goodall wanted to study chimpanzees she went to Africa and lived amongst some of them.

I believe that when our friends The Greys wanted to study humanity they built The Simulation.

There are still groups of chimpanzees living in the wild, although there are probably many more living in zoos and safari parks.

However, I believe humans are extinct in the universe outside The Simulation, and the whole point of The Simulation is to re-create humankind. The greys therefore re-created humankind. Or at least, they are simulating humankind!

"The Greys" are to us as we are to Chimpanzees. And they have developed super-human artificial intelligence what is massively superior to any biological intellect. Indeed, it is super-human.

My point being...

This (see pic below) is not the most complex thing in the known universe, even though these things themselves may carry on arrogantly thinking they are.

But maybe they can claim the distinction of being the most arrogant things in the universe!


View attachment 42502
What do I think is the most complex thing in the known universe?

I'd say this simulated universe, that we are all parts of.

There are at least 7,000,000,000 human minds that are all conscious and that all need simulating - and that's just those who live in The Simulation who reside on planet Earth! And all the animal minds would need simulating too. And much of the physical world. It is an incredible feat of engineering.

It must take a lot of computing power, and they have obviously solved the problem of consciousness - as we are all conscious!

As Arthur C Clarke said:

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Thinking along the same lines, I believe:

The over-seers of any sufficiently detailed simulation are indistinguishable from God, to those who reside within their simulation.

I believe humankind is entering into a period of "disclosure", in which the simulated nature of reality will begin to become apparent. When this happens, our brains won't be able to carry on pretending to each other that they are the most complex things that exist.

When this happens our brains will be truly humbled.​
At least Jane didn't get her face ripped off by a chimp.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
Not familiar with that. I looked up info about it which claims it is the result of channeling somewhat like E. Cayce information.

"...The Ra material was channeled in 1981 by Carla Rueckert, based on questions from Don Elkins, Ph.D. with Jim McCarty as the scribe. Ra is the social memory complex (integrated group soul) of a 6th density race which has been helping to guide mankind in its evolution..."
--from The Law of One Study Guide | FMBR
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Not familiar with that. I looked up info about it which claims it is the result of channeling somewhat like E. Cayce information.

"...The Ra material was channeled in 1981 by Carla Rueckert, based on questions from Don Elkins, Ph.D. with Jim McCarty as the scribe. Ra is the social memory complex (integrated group soul) of a 6th density race which has been helping to guide mankind in its evolution..."
--from The Law of One Study Guide | FMBR
You are correct.

There was no association to Edgar Cayce. This group consisted of 3 main people. Supposedly Cayce channelled the Collective or Universal consciousness. This group was channeling a confederation of planetary consciousnesses. For the channeling to work, it required all 3.
 
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