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What would it take for you to NOT believe in God?

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
As per the other thread about what it might take to believe in God, and presumably this might apply only to those who do have a belief in the one God, although it also might apply to others.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
As per the other thread about what it might take to believe in God, and presumably this might apply only to those who do have a belief in the one God, although it also might apply to others.

That I knew what objective reality independent of the mind is natural, and not just being independent of the mind.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
As per the other thread about what it might take to believe in God, and presumably this might apply only to those who do have a belief in the one God, although it also might apply to others.
Nothing can take away my faith and belief in the spiritual realm and the countless Gods and Buddhas that is there.
And nothing can take away my faith and belief in my teacher and the teaching I cultivate.
 
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ecco

Veteran Member
Nothing can take away my faith and believe in the spiritual realm and the countless Gods and Buddhas that is there.
And nothing can take away my faith and belief in my teacher and the teaching I cultivate.
Wow. I'll have to remember that the next time someone says atheists are closed-minded.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What is close minded in having no doubt in the teaching and once spiritual teacher?
The one I doubt is my self and my own ability to enlighten to the teaching.
"Nothing can take away my faith..." Sounds pretty closed-minded. Your belief is not falsifiable, it's impervious to facts, reason or testing.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
"Nothing can take away my faith..." Sounds pretty closed-minded. Your belief is not falsifiable, it's impervious to facts, reason or testing.
Yes I am the one who "test" my own faith in the teaching and in my teacher. I do not blindly follow, but so far I have not found anything in the teaching or with my teacher I can say is false.
The cultivation is a personal journey toward some form of enlightenment. So what others understand and believe in the teaching or the teacher is their own part of the journey.
I don't speak for what others should or should not believe or have faith in. I speak only of my own understanding and experience.
And the teaching has taken away the doubt I may have had in spiritual practice.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
One of two things:
  • For the things I consider gods now to cease to exist, which would mean the universe and everything, including myself, would cease to exist (obviously, this is never going to happen)
  • For me to fall into the trap of letting others define gods for me and thus not apply that honorific title to the things in my life that are worthy of worship (which is also never going to happen)
Edited to add - the word, honestly, isn't important. I suppose there's a third option, which is what atheists in my mind do all the time: have your gods, and don't call them gods for whatever reason.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
If you'll be able to define "God" without using the word "God" :)

I don't think I need bother since no doubt there are plenty of different definitions, and beliefs as to such. Expect them all to mean the same thing?
 
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McBell

Resident Sourpuss
If you'll be able to define "God" without using the word "God" :)
ROTFLMAO

Your run around answer is most amusing.
You flat out declared you would answer the question of the Title and here you are NOT answering it.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
I don't think I need bother since no doubt there are plenty of different definitions, and beliefs as to such. Expect them all to mean the same thing?
Interesting, is it not, that his very question indicates he has no idea which god he believes in?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Wow. I'll have to remember that the next time someone says atheists are closed-minded.


I've honestly talked with people who found it hard to answer hypothetic questions without needing to undermine their beliefs. My friend has difficulty unless it to a real world situation.
 
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