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Atheism and arrogance

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Calm down please. It's a topic for discussion, you shouldn't take it so personally.

I'm calm, Cooky. The premise of the OP question is insulting - it's meant to be personal. Claiming someone is arrogant is an attack on their character. If you want a topic for discussion, how about: what's a good reason to believe a god exists? Have one?
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I'm calm, Cooky. The premise of the OP question is insulting - it's meant to be personal. Claiming someone is arrogant is an attack on their character. If you want a topic for discussion, how about: what's a good reason to believe a god exists? Have one?

Funny... I wasn't offended.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Are atheists arrogant because they don't believe or do they not believe because they are arrogant?

I believe the latter is the correct view.

Qur'an 7:146 "Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of right - them will I turn away from My signs: Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them; and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way; but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt. For they have rejected our signs, and failed to take warning from them."
You are missing a step. First, you need to establish that atheists are in fact arrogant. This is not something that is evidently true.

Why do you assume it is the case?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Are atheists arrogant because they don't believe or do they not believe because they are arrogant?


Why single out atheists?

Are Christians arrogant because they don't believe Allah is God or do they not believe Allah is God because they are arrogant?

Are Hindus arrogant because they don't believe Allah is God or do they not believe Allah is God because they are arrogant?

Are Deists arrogant because they don't believe Allah is God or do they not believe Allah is God because they are arrogant?

Are Buddhists arrogant because they don't believe Allah is God or do they not believe Allah is God because they are arrogant?
 

Piculet

Active Member
Oh look, another Atheist hating thread based on ignorance.
Another attempt to deviate from the actual topic. :)
Well, at least we are not arrogant enough to believe that an almighty being created the whole Universe for us.

Ciao

- viole
It seems you are starting from the ignorant presumption that creating the whole universe was a hard or great task for its creator. ;)

Have you never seen the arrogance of religious people before?
I have, but I have been thinking it could be caused by their lack of belief in one God. I have seen those who worship Jesus as God, being arrogant. I have seen those who give divinity to human beings, being arrogant. I have seen the superstitious being arrogant. I have not seen anyone who truly believes in one God and worships Him, being arrogant.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Be very, very careful. This is a *super-sensitive* topic here at RF.

...But you're alright to rag on Islam all day. Atheism is untouchable, however.
No, atheism is not untouchable. Bring some evidence -- any evidence at all -- that demonstrates that atheism is an incorrect understanding, and I promise you that every atheist here will give it most complete attention.

However, you might not enjoy their analysis of your "evidence."
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Are atheists arrogant because they don't believe or do they not believe because they are arrogant?

I believe the latter is the correct view.

Qur'an 7:146 "Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of right - them will I turn away from My signs: Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them; and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way; but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt. For they have rejected our signs, and failed to take warning from them."

Hey @firedragon,
Do you still not understand why Islam is so unpopular in the rest of the world?
Tom
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Another attempt to deviate from the actual topic. :)

It seems you are starting from the ignorant presumption that creating the whole universe was a hard or great task for its creator. ;)


I have, but I have been thinking it could be caused by their lack of belief in one God. I have seen those who worship Jesus as God, being arrogant. I have seen those who give divinity to human beings, being arrogant. I have seen the superstitious being arrogant. I have not seen anyone who truly believes in one God and worships Him, being arrogant.
Try a mirror...
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Are atheists arrogant because they don't believe or do they not believe because they are arrogant? I believe the latter is the correct view.
You are doing a good impression of being a troll even if that is not your intention (and perhaps you will get banned), and as pointed out, you are hardly a good representative of Islam (not bother you?). Would you say any believers in religions other than Islam too are arrogant - including those not monotheistic? My tagline for religion just about covers people like you rather nicely, and making an assumption without proper evidence is foolhardy - a bit like believing in God, erm, just because. :rolleyes:

As per many, you are the one displaying arrogance in having your particular belief to the exclusion of any other possibility.
 
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