Koldo
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I would consider everything.
Then what statistics have you read back when you chose who to marry? Or what statistics did you, at least, try to find back then?
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I would consider everything.
Back then there was no internet, so no stats easily available. The only stats I had to hand were: marry a non-Christian, high probability of divorce, marry a Christian, low probability of divorce. I chose the latter.Then what statistics have you read back when you chose who to marry? Or what statistics did you, at least, try to find back then?
Back then there was no internet, so no stats easily available. The only stats I had to hand were: marry a non-Christian, high probability of divorce, marry a Christian, low probability of divorce. I chose the latter.
What's that got do with anything? When you're young you don't look out for such things. Stats didn't even exist back then outside of specialist books.And you didn't even try to find any statistics, right?
Yeah, I knew it.
You'd better ask the OP. I'm not sure what the point of his post was. I couldn't see any connection between BLM and what he was talking about.@eik
So what was the point of bringing race into this topic?
I support the BLM movements all over the world, that does not make me an atheist, it make me aware of the problem some white people make toward black people.You'd better ask the OP. I'm not sure what the point of his post was. I couldn't see any connection between BLM and what he was talking about.
I brought my own house when I was young, and I was subjected to an incredible degree of hostility and abuse by my elderly neighbours. I wasn't even of a different race. To see a racial element in everything in perverse.
BLM is a variant of Black Power in the 1960s. Nothing new, except that there are proportionally many more blacks today than in the 1960s, due to a massive population increase amongst blacks not reflected in a corresponding increase in the white population. Then there is a degree of rebellion against conventional morality in the white population not previously seen. A far more polarized society perhaps in the US than before, but I think it is a religious divide: atheists (massively increased in number) versus non-atheists.
And I'm pretty sure BLM are mainly atheists. Cofounder Alicia Garza uses the Twitter handle “Love God Herself." Anyone who believes in a femine God is a born again mother earth worshipper (i.e. atheist). Demands to defund the police discloses an anarchist organization.
This was your very first comment in this thread:You'd better ask the OP. I'm not sure what the point of his post was. I couldn't see any connection between BLM and what he was talking about.
I brought my own house when I was young, and I was subjected to an incredible degree of hostility and abuse by my elderly neighbours. I wasn't even of a different race. To see a racial element in everything in perverse. [...]
None of your subsequent comments had anything to do with hostility by neighbours, but everything with divorce and divorce rates.White wife/Black husband marriages are almost twice as likely to divorce by the 10th year of marriage compared to White/White couples, which is already high enough. On balance, may be not such a good idea if you're religiously disposed. Not all people are.
As far as I am aware, you're not a Christian.I support the BLM movements all over the world, that does not make me an atheist, it make me aware of the problem some white people make toward black people.
True. But what does that has to do with BLM?As far as I am aware, you're not a Christian.
That's only because I was being interrogated by someone with an agenda and responding to their questions.This was your very first comment in this thread:
None of your subsequent comments had anything to do with hostility by neighbours, but everything with divorce and divorce rates.
Why would it be strange? I didn't mention "ideal" partners. The limit of my analysis was the usage of statistics and how they might influence you to avoid pitfalls that so many fall into.Now that you've expounded at length about your personal views on divorce and ideal partners, it seems especially strange that you would broach this topic in a thread about interracial marriage,
I don't think you have a good motive. Sounds like an inquisition, to elicit a "thought crime."That's why I'm interested in what was going through your mind when you made that post.
What's that got do with anything? When you're young you don't look out for such things. Stats didn't even exist back then outside of specialist books.
I'd been presented with the Christian versus non-Christian matter in a forcible manner. It was also something I'd witnessed in real life: the propensity of non-Christians to divorce. In the event I'd wish I'd been presented with such matters earlier in my life. The prevailing commie ideologies don't promote such learning, because in commie philosophy, restraint and discrimination is wrong when it comes to "love." Commie philosophy is based in atheism, and has historically promoted the kind of free love that exists in modern society (i.e. if you don't like being married, just get a divorce and ignore the consequences).
Don't you think that all of the things this woman listed would be the kind of things that put additional strains on a relationship and could be a significant factor in those statistics? Do you think "religiously disposed" people should just surrender to the "evil" in the world or should they seek to overcome and defeat it?White wife/Black husband marriages are almost twice as likely to divorce by the 10th year of marriage compared to White/White couples, which is already high enough. On balance, may be not such a good idea if you're religiously disposed. Not all people are.
I'm a fool then. I didn't. And I'm still married to the same woman 51 years later. The secret - pure unadulterated stubbornness when it came to working things out. We refused to give up on each other.I definitely took into account the likelihood of my spouse divorcing me when I selected a wife. I'm still married to the woman, 34 years later. If you don't take it into account, you're a fool.
You'd better ask the OP. I'm not sure what the point of his post was. I couldn't see any connection between BLM and what he was talking about.
Most religions have no issues with people of whatever color. And even still, when christianity spread through Europe, we didnt just see black and white, we saw Angle, Celt, Dane, Jute, Saxon, and so on. But we aren't very tribal anymore and havent been in Europe for awhile, so not mixing tribes took a more modern understanding, which is race. A Saxon and Dane marriage was unthinkable and treasonous at one point. Today no one gives a damn.On balance, may be not such a good idea if you're religiously disposed. Not all people are.
Neither do I'm as I am not interested in this subject. Everyone associates with whom they want to. I am no different. I associate with whom I want to.Most religions have no issues with people of whatever color. And even still, when christianity spread through Europe, we didnt just see black and white, we saw Angle, Celt, Dane, Jute, Saxon, and so on. But we aren't very tribal anymore and havent been in Europe for awhile, so not mixing tribes took a more modern understanding, which is race. A Saxon and Dane marriage was unthinkable and treasonous at one point. Today no one gives a damn.
Why should that be a concern? Why cant people do that in their own time when civil rights, liberties, and rights are at stake?not the salvation of souls.
And it's been Christian values that have perpetuated racism. Such as the "mixing tribes" thing I referenced earlier. Or permission to own slaves. That was a God Given Right the South demanded from the start if American sovereignty. Saying that if your religious you should think carefully before entering an interracial marriage, thats part of the reason Christianity is in decline. Because Christian churches are still upholding ancient dogma and superstitions that the rest of the world has largely and most left behind.Why should anyone care? What do they expect? Their values are entirely "secular."
White wife/Black husband marriages are almost twice as likely to divorce by the 10th year of marriage compared to White/White couples, which is already high enough. On balance, may be not such a good idea if you're religiously disposed. Not all people are.
I didn’t say anything about the races of the individuals. You made an assumption. Interesting.Yes, be afraid of the 6 foot plus black male giant because black men withiut the height are intimidating and if you feel worried gor no real reason just go with your worry (I'm glad I didn't follow that at the dentist the other, as Ive been so mistreated by healthcare providers that one being exceptionally awesome to me sent me immediately flying into panic mode).