Unveiled Artist
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I was wondering to those who believe there is A creator.
To tell you honestly, I don't know what the abrahamic creator is so don't ask for "my" definitions. But I guess since everyone else knows, I'll use this as an example.
Without scientific proof or anything like that, can you give logical reasoning the existence of a creator? (Not proof that one exists but logical reasoning to suggest one either may or does exist; the logistics that brought you to that conclusion)
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For example, (and forgive me for not having a less unique and serious contextual example). There is a logical reason why some children believe santa exists even though it is not a fact. The logic is sound regardless whether it is fact or fiction.
There are a few explanations that came to mind:
1. The creator exists because the bible says he does
2. The creator exists because I believe or I have faith
3. The creator exists because I can feel him working through me (he loves me or holy spirit)
4. The creator exists because I experience miracles in his name
5. Among others
What are the logical reasoning behind these statements?
1. What does it mean "because the bible says he does"?
"because it says so" can that be reasoned out?
2. Having faith and belief something exists doesn't make it true. (Proof of existence aside). What is the logic or reasoning did you-as the believer-come to that made faith and belief developed god into existence?
3. Humans have many types of feelings that overlap each other because we all have the same senses and brains and neurons (to make it simplistic). So, regardless our morals, our religion, and our interpretations, we all have religious feelings whether even if most religious say you have to practice or know X in order to experience it. Aka, We're human.
So, what's the reasoning behind your feeling beyond "you don't have to believe what I believe to know it's true". Beyond that? What's the reasoning?
4. Lastly, no one is challenging your experiences.
What types of experiences and observations make good reason there is a creator?
(Your logic from your experiences rather than the validity of them)
For example, some see patterns in creation. Most people do regardless their worldview. So, is there something beyond these patterns that point to a creator in and of itself. It doesn't need to be proof just logic towards that conclusion.
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Without scientific proof or anything like that, can you give logical reasoning the existence of a creator? (Not proof that one exists but logical reasoning to suggest one either may or does exist)
I don't care about evidence. I just figure if there is some logic behind why people believe a creator exists, what are they and how did they come to that conclusion?
To tell you honestly, I don't know what the abrahamic creator is so don't ask for "my" definitions. But I guess since everyone else knows, I'll use this as an example.
Without scientific proof or anything like that, can you give logical reasoning the existence of a creator? (Not proof that one exists but logical reasoning to suggest one either may or does exist; the logistics that brought you to that conclusion)
-
For example, (and forgive me for not having a less unique and serious contextual example). There is a logical reason why some children believe santa exists even though it is not a fact. The logic is sound regardless whether it is fact or fiction.
There are a few explanations that came to mind:
1. The creator exists because the bible says he does
2. The creator exists because I believe or I have faith
3. The creator exists because I can feel him working through me (he loves me or holy spirit)
4. The creator exists because I experience miracles in his name
5. Among others
What are the logical reasoning behind these statements?
1. What does it mean "because the bible says he does"?
"because it says so" can that be reasoned out?
2. Having faith and belief something exists doesn't make it true. (Proof of existence aside). What is the logic or reasoning did you-as the believer-come to that made faith and belief developed god into existence?
3. Humans have many types of feelings that overlap each other because we all have the same senses and brains and neurons (to make it simplistic). So, regardless our morals, our religion, and our interpretations, we all have religious feelings whether even if most religious say you have to practice or know X in order to experience it. Aka, We're human.
So, what's the reasoning behind your feeling beyond "you don't have to believe what I believe to know it's true". Beyond that? What's the reasoning?
4. Lastly, no one is challenging your experiences.
What types of experiences and observations make good reason there is a creator?
(Your logic from your experiences rather than the validity of them)
For example, some see patterns in creation. Most people do regardless their worldview. So, is there something beyond these patterns that point to a creator in and of itself. It doesn't need to be proof just logic towards that conclusion.
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Without scientific proof or anything like that, can you give logical reasoning the existence of a creator? (Not proof that one exists but logical reasoning to suggest one either may or does exist)
I don't care about evidence. I just figure if there is some logic behind why people believe a creator exists, what are they and how did they come to that conclusion?
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