GINOLJC, to all.
Good posts from all participants.
addressing the OP, why not reverse engineer the question before us, "Who is JESUS", and then examine him for ourselves piece by piece.
#1. establish what, or who we have, and then take it apart piece by piece.
#2. eliminate any parts that is not true.
#3. Establish each working part as true.
#4. then put is all back together from scratch
and when one do that, PROGRESSION, ONE STEP AT A TIME, then one will know for sure who the Lord Jesus, the Christ, really is. running around in circle, jumping from one subject matter to another is, (a). confusion, and (b). one loose track of the main picture. so a suggestion,
Step #1.
I believe that JESUS is God, who is "a" Spirit, that came/sent, who manifested in flesh as a "diversity" of his OWNSELF.. I base this on the scriptures themselves.
Scripture, Acts 2:32 "This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses." here the apostle Peter clearly is a witness to this fact that "God" raised up that body of the Christ. this scripture is clear as DAY, no confusion here.
now this,
John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?"
John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?"
John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body."
now for some, not all, this is a dilemma. because either Jesus is God, or the bible, with the Lord Jesus statement, "that he raised up his body", either straight out lied, God forbid. but we know the Lord Jesus don't lie. and with the apostle Peter being a witness to God raising up Jesus with the Holy Ghost in him, the Holy Ghost don't lie either. so there are only two question before us, "is Jesus, God, the same one person, or is Jesus the Son of God a separate person. well the second question has no merit, as Jesus being a SEPERATE person. so then the question come before us all is this, "How can Jesus be God, and the Son of God at the same time, meaning the same person.
this is #1. establish what, or who we have. is Jesus God and, or the Son of God at the same time, meaning the same one person? for if we say Jesus i8s the Son of God, and is a seperate person as God, then both the Lord Jesus, and the Holy Ghost in Peter lied, God forbid. if we go that route we might as well pack our bags and go home. or, find out how the Lord Jesus is God and the Son of God at the same time, being the same Person. this is #1. establish as to what we have,
now is the time to break down the piece and examine each part.......... is Jesus God and the Son of God at the same time? if so... HOW.
me personally, I believe that Jesus is God and the Son of God at the same time, which the scriptures themselves prove without a shadow of a doubt, who is the same person. I base this on the word I used earlier, "diversity". which is the Greek word, G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n. which means, "Offspring",
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man), diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
Root(s): G1096
there is the word, "diversity", which is another word for "offspring", (as the KJV can translate as), and this word offspring can be found in the scripture concerning Christ at, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
my source for the definition is the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments.
now knowing these thing I can without a doubt understand how Jesus is God, (the Root), and the Son of God, (the Offspring), who is the SAME PERSON, at the same time. which John at 1:1 clearly establish, as well as all the other holy prophets and apostles as well.
I would like to hear other explanation from those who participate in following this topic, so that we can work on #1. establish what, or who we have
PICJAG.
