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I'm more or less with you on that. At least the Jesus described in the NT - highly doubtful that he existed. A Jesus may have existed - just not the NT's version.I've read the new testament. My opinion is that it's fake. Jesus is fake. He never existed. Why? Because the books don't make sense at all!
Care to flesh this out a bit?I've read the new testament. My opinion is that it's fake. Jesus is fake. He never existed. Why? Because the books don't make sense at all!
The books are about miracles that go against nature. Please!
Isn't it strange that NO historian ever mentioned Jesus?I'm more or less with you on that. At least the Jesus described in the NT - highly doubtful that he existed. A Jesus may have existed - just not the NT's version.
However, you've opened a can of worms here. You'll probably be bombarded by Christians. Maybe Muslims and Baha'is, too. Good luck.
Historians never mentioned Jesus. Only the evangelists talk about him. If Jesus was such a celebrity with drawing masses, the historians would mention him a lot!Care to flesh this out a bit?
Wasn't he mentioned by Josephus?Isn't it strange that NO historian ever mentioned Jesus?
I don't know him. A little information would be nice. What did he say and when?Wasn't he mentioned by Josephus?
Flavius Josephus (Hebrew name Yosef ben Matityahu) was a Jewish historian to the Roman emperors. Originally a Judean rebel, he became a turncoat and switched over to the Roman side in exchange for being allowed to live.I don't know him. A little information would be nice. What did he say and when?
Its all borrowed theology with bits and pieces from the vast pantheon of gods and demigods as the early Christians hijacked Judaism with some spins and turns. The books don't even make sense with each other for that matter along with contradicting its own theology such as it is. Especially early Christians and Pauline theology as they mismash the two together to form......I've read the new testament. My opinion is that it's fake. Jesus is fake. He never existed. Why? Because the books don't make sense at all!
The books are about miracles that go against nature. Please!
When was this written?Flavius Josephus (Hebrew name Yosef ben Matityahu) was a Jewish historian to the Roman emperors. Originally a Judean rebel, he became a turncoat and switched over to the Roman side in exchange for being allowed to live.
Here's what he says about Jesus:
"About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Christ. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared." (Antiquities of the Jews, 18:3:3) (Josephus on Jesus - Wikipedia)
Borrowed theology? It's fiction, in my opinion. It has nothing to do with theology, in my opinion. And it hijacked Judaism.Its all borrowed theology with bits and pieces from the vast pantheon of gods and demigods as the early Christians hijacked Judaism with some spins and turns. The books don't even make sense with each other for that matter along with contradicting its own theology such as it is. Especially early Christians and Pauline theology as they mismash the two together to form......
Paste.
According to Wikipedia, around 93-94 CE. Indeed, there's a debate whether this is definitive proof of the existence of Jesus.When was this written?
It seems to me that all Josephus did was to read an evangelist book. He wasn't a witness but a reader of an evangelion.According to Wikipedia, around 93-94 CE. Indeed, there's a debate whether this is definitive proof of the existence of Jesus.
Josephus himself lived from 37 CE to 100 CE.
That's exactly what the debate is about. How about looking into that? (bearing in mind that I'm still on your side in this )It seems to me that all Josephus did was to read an evangelist book. He wasn't a witness but a reader of an evangelion.
Actually, Josephus wrote this from the passage you posted.That's exactly what the debate is about. How about looking into that? (bearing in mind that I'm still on your side in this )
Now that's a question, isn't it? Is your interpretation of the paragraph the correct one, or not?Actually, Josephus wrote this from the passage you posted.
About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man.
If he was a man. A real man and not a fiction man.
I doubt. Did Josephus mention anything else about Jesus?Now that's a question, isn't it? Is your interpretation of the paragraph the correct one, or not?
Perhaps he meant "one ought to call him a man" as in 'he was more amazing than any average person'? And why? "For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly."
ok fine....I've read the new testament. My opinion is that it's fake. Jesus is fake. He never existed. Why? Because the books don't make sense at all!
The books are about miracles that go against nature. Please!
When was this written?
I see.ok fine....
but the Carpenter remains my Inspiration
because of the parables
He didn't save anyone by walking on water
He was just showing off
He didn't save anyone by healing the sick
He could....so He did
and He didn't save anyone by dying like He did
that was just the cumulation of events going against Him
His ministry is that of teaching
and He did so in parable