Igtheism
Rdwin McCravy
Igtheism
Would you also say "For myself personally, I don't say that "Bliffle exists" can't have meaning?" I don't think you would say that, would you?
Jim<<Yes, I would.
Hmm. Well, I assume you mean that you can't be sure that some people haven't coined "Bliffle", and that it refers to some technical term in some realm of technology with which you have never heard of. But you wouldn't put any money on that being the case. Is that right? Then I agree. You're just saying there is no absolute certainty, for our brains could possibly have gone kaput 5 minutes ago and we might only be thinking we're making sense by what we are saying when we aren't. Right?
Do you speak and write rows of letters when you aren't sure whether they are meaningful or not -- as though you believed they are meaningful words?
Jim>>I use the string of letters “God” often, every day, as if it referred to a person, even though I don’t see any way for it to mean anything.<<
Don't you consider it dishonest to speak as though you think you mean something, if you don't mean what you are causing somebody to believe?
[Me previously]: I'll try not to violate the forum rules.
Jim>>The main thing might be to avoid being preachy, and don’t try to turn other people’s conversations into conversations about what you’re saying in this one.<<
I'm trying to stick to atheism vs. (theological noncognitism, igtheism, and ignostic), and WHY I have the stand of lack of belief. I post under the title "igtheism" but I don't know which of those, if any, fits me. Maybe all of them do, maybe none. I don't know what words people have coined. I would guess that most of the English language was coined by Christians, and most wouldn't understand where I stand.
Jim<<<Also, it might be okay to discuss in these forums how to turn people away from some religions outside of the forums, as long as you aren’t actually trying to do it here<<
I think you mean this would be unacceptable for a Christian to post:
"If you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and turn from sin and give your heart and soul to God then you will suffer eternally in Hell".
but preceding and following it with a few qualifying words makes it acceptable, right?:
"IT IS MY BELIEF That if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and turn from sin and give your heart and soul to God then you will suffer eternally in Hell, HOWEVER I AM ONLY TELLING OF MY BELIEF, AND NOT TELLING YOU THAT YOU SHOULD ADOPT IT."
So I should always qualify what I say to make sure I am only speaking of my lack of belief and not suggesting that anybody drop their belief that the row of alphabet letters "God" is meaningful, right?
Would you also say "For myself personally, I don't say that "Bliffle exists" can't have meaning?" I don't think you would say that, would you?
Jim<<Yes, I would.
Hmm. Well, I assume you mean that you can't be sure that some people haven't coined "Bliffle", and that it refers to some technical term in some realm of technology with which you have never heard of. But you wouldn't put any money on that being the case. Is that right? Then I agree. You're just saying there is no absolute certainty, for our brains could possibly have gone kaput 5 minutes ago and we might only be thinking we're making sense by what we are saying when we aren't. Right?
Do you speak and write rows of letters when you aren't sure whether they are meaningful or not -- as though you believed they are meaningful words?
Jim>>I use the string of letters “God” often, every day, as if it referred to a person, even though I don’t see any way for it to mean anything.<<
Don't you consider it dishonest to speak as though you think you mean something, if you don't mean what you are causing somebody to believe?
[Me previously]: I'll try not to violate the forum rules.
Jim>>The main thing might be to avoid being preachy, and don’t try to turn other people’s conversations into conversations about what you’re saying in this one.<<
I'm trying to stick to atheism vs. (theological noncognitism, igtheism, and ignostic), and WHY I have the stand of lack of belief. I post under the title "igtheism" but I don't know which of those, if any, fits me. Maybe all of them do, maybe none. I don't know what words people have coined. I would guess that most of the English language was coined by Christians, and most wouldn't understand where I stand.
Jim<<<Also, it might be okay to discuss in these forums how to turn people away from some religions outside of the forums, as long as you aren’t actually trying to do it here<<
I think you mean this would be unacceptable for a Christian to post:
"If you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and turn from sin and give your heart and soul to God then you will suffer eternally in Hell".
but preceding and following it with a few qualifying words makes it acceptable, right?:
"IT IS MY BELIEF That if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and turn from sin and give your heart and soul to God then you will suffer eternally in Hell, HOWEVER I AM ONLY TELLING OF MY BELIEF, AND NOT TELLING YOU THAT YOU SHOULD ADOPT IT."
So I should always qualify what I say to make sure I am only speaking of my lack of belief and not suggesting that anybody drop their belief that the row of alphabet letters "God" is meaningful, right?