There's no Rabbit Hole deeper than this one.
I have no idea what "created" means in this sense, but am stuck for
a word to define how and why something "happened."
Photons hitting your eye from natural light mostly were "created" by
nuclear fusion in the sun. Lightning is "created" by charge differential
between the earth and the atmosphere.
This is science, cause and effect, no miracles or magic.
The universe cannot "form" itself when it didn't exist. That's magic.
By definition, whatever "formed" the universe lay outside said universe.
Resorting to the "turtles all the way down" analogy don't answer the
question of how the turtles came to be. I see it as an academic sleigh
of hand.
As it is the universe appears to be expanding at an ever growing rate
of knots. The "big crunch" theory isn't looking so good. This universe is
a "one off."
All that rambling and and you still didn't explained why the universe is/was created. This reply is just a rewording of what you said earlier.
"The universe is here - so someone or something "created" it.
I don't see any science being done there.
And lightening is not the universe. So eventhough you can explain why it was created, that says nothing about the universe being created. We a lot of things that are createf. And we also know lot of things, but don't know whether or not they were created. How did you came to the conclusion that the universe was created?
You're jumping the gun here. Let's pull it back and look at it again. Since we're talking about the universe here, this is what
1. The "what"
- "the universe exist." - True statement (I'm simply skipping the argument for existence here, so to be distracted from my point).
2. The "why" -
"The universe was created." -
Not true statement (at least, not yet. ) you haven't given an explanation as to why the universe must have been created. This step is important because it is where the road usually where road split, and it's where the determination of the direction as to how the truth is sought out, or can end up as being False. The answer need not be scientific, but skipping this step can have you be wrong and not even know it. Or look all the answers in all the wrong places.
3. The "how" -
"the universe was created by something outside the universe - Not true/False (at least not yet) This is when science and pseudoscience comes to play.
So it doesn't matter whether you assume that the universe was created through magic, miracles, aliens, rabbits, or turtles, etc, by skipping step 2 and assumed that the universe was created, you've set up some problems for yourself when provided your argument.