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COVID-19: God's Punishment for Homosexuality?

Timelli

Member
That doesn't matter actually. Your argument is sufficently silly that no matter how you spin it, it still turns out silly.
Well it does because that standard decides the justness of an action. If the standard is subjective than I can decide for myself whether killing someone is just or not.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Well it does because that standard decides the justness of an action. If the standard is subjective than I can decide for myself whether killing someone is just or not.

Indeed, you are perfectly correct.

PS: keep on going you might unravel the reason why your argument is so fantastically silly all by yourself (which is a lot more interesting and profound than having someone point it out).
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
What "lesson" are you hoping he learns? That he was wrong about COVID being a punishment for homosexuals, or that he should stop practicing homosexuality to avoid more punishments from God?
It is painfully obvious he needs to stop practicing homosexuality to avoid more punishments from God
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Except the person responsible for it all... apparently.
In Scripture the person responsible for it all is ->Satan, and by way of extension Adam.
Remember: In Scripture God gifted His intelligent creation with free-will choices.
First sinner -> Satan, and Satan wants us humans to worship him.
Adam freely chose to break God's Law and by doing that Adam took the Law out of God's hands.
Thus, Adam put the Law into man's hands and he set up People Rule as superior to God Rule.
Satan challenges all of us ( Job 2:4-5 )
' Touch our 'flesh' ' ( loose physical health ) and we would Not serve God.
Both Job and Jesus under adverse conditions proved Satan a liar and so can we.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
So, according to the Bible, God is the standard and we fall very short of that standard making us the guilty and God innocent.
Rather: Satan and Adam are the guilty ones.
Because we are 'innocent' of what Satan and Adam did is why God sent pre-human sinless Jesus to Earth fore us.
Jesus will undo all the wrongs Satan and Adam brought upon us -> www.jw.org
 

Timelli

Member
In Scripture the person responsible for it all is ->Satan, and by way of extension Adam.
Remember: In Scripture God gifted His intelligent creation with free-will choices.
First sinner -> Satan, and Satan wants us humans to worship him.
Adam freely chose to break God's Law and by doing that Adam took the Law out of God's hands.
Thus, Adam put the Law into man's hands and he set up People Rule as superior to God Rule.
Satan challenges all of us ( Job 2:4-5 )
' Touch our 'flesh' ' ( loose physical health ) and we would Not serve God.
Both Job and Jesus under adverse conditions proved Satan a liar and so can we.
I agree.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
So, according to the Bible, God is the standard and we fall very short of that standard making us the guilty and God innocent.

If we are designed as the Bible state and we all fall very short wouldn't that be a flaw in design? Who is responsible for that flaw in design?
 

Timelli

Member
We fall short because of our own choices. The reason for us having the ability to choose comes from the fact that God did not want people that were robots. God wanted a relationship with people who chose to obey Him and reciprocate His love.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
We fall short because of our own choices. The reason for us having the ability to choose comes from the fact that God did not want people that were robots. God wanted a relationship with people who chose to obey Him and reciprocate His love.

Thus all poor choices are his fault since they were the prices for him having worshipers. He wanted love so badly he was ready to murder half the world so the other half could praise him (so to speak). Your deity is different sort of weakling than that of Good-Ole-Rebel, but a weakling notheless.

PS: If your deity only wants people who do exactly has he says when he says it and love him, how different are such people from robots who are designed to to do as he says when he says it and love him? It's a bit a distinction without a difference don't you think
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
What do you mean by "pre-human"?
In Scripture, God sent His heavenly Son to Earth for us.
So, Jesus lived in the heavens before his God sent heavenly Jesus to Earth to be born here as a human.
Since No human on Earth could prove to be sinless, then we needed someone to help us.
Help us out get out of the trap of sin and death.
First, the passing of time was needed for us to be born and to think who we would like as Sovereign over us.
Since we can't stop sinning is why we die.
We can't resurrect oneself or another, so we need someone who can resurrect us - Jesus can - Revelation 1:18
This is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come!
Come and undo all the damage Satan and Adam brought upon us.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Thus all poor choices are his fault since they were the prices for him having worshipers.
Well, the poor choices of Satan and Adam.
If God would have wiped out Adam and Eve right away we simply would Not be here.
Once the issue raised in Eden as to ' who governs best ' is settled then God's worshippers will gain all good choices.
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
Staff member
Premium Member
In Scripture, God sent His heavenly Son to Earth for us.
So, Jesus lived in the heavens before his God sent heavenly Jesus to Earth to be born here as a human.
Since No human on Earth could prove to be sinless, then we needed someone to help us.
Help us out get out of the trap of sin and death.
First, the passing of time was needed for us to be born and to think who we would like as Sovereign over us.
Since we can't stop sinning is why we die.
We can't resurrect oneself or another, so we need someone who can resurrect us - Jesus can - Revelation 1:18
This is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come!
Come and undo all the damage Satan and Adam brought upon us.
Ah. I see what you mean by 'pre-human'. Thank you for clarifying that. Pre-human has other meanings and I was a bit confused about what you meant.
 
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