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United States Now Leading the World for COVID-19 Infections

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I'd like to thank our chosen leader President Donald J. Trump who has made America number one in the testing of the China virus....

That's laughable. What's your source? Or is this just another "Trump Truth"?


"Source, Sunstone? Why I myself saw the President pull that fact out of his very own butt right on Fox News! Trump that for truth, Sunstone!"
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You know for certain the World Health Organizations stats are more accurate than John Hopkins, eh?

I don't think you really know. I think you're just assuming they are more accurate.

Me, I'm going with John Hopkins.
I presume you mean Johns Hopkins. If you’re going to go with them you might at least know their name.:p
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
We are now at the point of arguing whether being third globally for COVID-19 infections is much better than being first.

Was this the America you wanted when you voted four years ago? Because I doubt it was.
If you read what I wrote you would have read that the per capita is more germane. On both a per capita rate and rate of spread of infection the U.S. is doing much better that other countries. The majority of Americans approve of the job President Trump is handling this situation. If you don’t, that’s just you.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Interesting to note: "Total number of COVID-19 cases in the United States by date reported"


Cases in U.S. | CDC
I wonder why the New York Times & Johns Hopkins have a much higher
number than the CDC?
But I wouldn't be surprised that we'd have now or eventually more cases
that China. Their form of government is much more suited to addressing
a pandemic than is ours, no matter which party is in power.
 
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Shadow Link

Active Member
I wonder why the New York Times & Johns Hopkins have a much higher
number than the CDC?
But I wouldn't be surprised that we'd have now or eventually more cases
that China. Their form of government is much more suited to addressing
a pandemic than is ours, no matter which party is in power.
From the CDC link...
"* Does not include cases among persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan." ?
 
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Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Good. That'll means we will probably be the first out of all this as our immune systems adapt and adjust.

I think some people might have stronger immune systems. I've read that some people could have had the coronavirus and recovered already and not even know it. I read another article which said that in Iceland, half of those who tested positive showed no symptoms whatsoever. I think they're trying to test the entire population, which is what we should do here. I'd like to be tested, but I'm not sick or showing any symptoms. Not yet, anyway.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Oh you know so much, do you? Then please tell me how many people will die before "herd immunity" (as it is called) is acquired in sufficient numbers to stop a pandemic in a country the size of the United States. HINT: It's in the seven digits range.

And when you are finished with that, tell me what are the odds the immunity will last longer than a few weeks or a few months?

Last, when you get done with all of the above, tell me what the best case projections are for the duration of acquired immunity with a SARS family virus.
Hey even with my condition I'm still running out and doing my part and not worrying about getting it or not, because I respect and live by one statement from Native Americans.....

~When the blood in your veins returns to the sea, and the earth in your bones returns to the ground, perhaps then you will remember that this land does not belong to you, it is you who belongs to this land.~

And yes we will collectively survive. 7 digit numbers or not which is a load of bull s*** anyways because if that had been the case, you would have seen those seven digits already manifesting in large populations.

Maybe if you stop projecting sensational numerical theories of mortality rates and look at reality, that even if you catch it the odds are that you will survive it, even those infirmed and weak although the prospects of the latter are not as rosy.

And I'm willing to put those words to the test myself because I'm out there working, with the health conditions I have, and I'm not afraid of catching it. If I survive, I know I'll be better off next time around I perchance catch it no matter what.
 
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suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Good. That'll means we will probably be the first out of all this as our immune systems adapt and adjust.

Ignorance... You read some herd immunity article and now think you what's best for the our country.

Please stop.

Your logic won't help the increased population of folks that will die from this strategy.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Ignorance... You read some herd immunity article and now think you what's best for the our country.

Please stop.

Your logic won't help the increased population of folks that will die from this strategy.

Herd immunity is a valid argument.

I think sometimes people should finally start looking at what it means to face one's own mortality and recognize we are , like it or not, a part of Nature and the way things work alongside the plethora of other species on this planet who face the exact same things respectively in terms of infection and sickness.

I have the opinion if we get too artificially dependent, then we will get to a point where we will be so biologically weak if that dependency is lost, that we will have those figures go off the scale the levels of the black plague in the medieval days for which even under those extreme conditions, those countries clearly survived with their populations intact and recovering.

Black Death Left a Mark on Human Genome | Science | AAAS

I've already accepted the prospects of my own mortality, and I'm willing to admit I am a part of nature.

I'm not afraid to face my death any more, because I can accept that as being the way life works. Even if I don't live through this, I know others will survive and a population will be stronger for it for future generations.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I presume you mean Johns Hopkins. If you’re going to go with them you might at least know their name.:p

Is that the best you can do? The best? I can see you were the kid who brilliantly pondered the similarities between Venn diagrams and stick-figure breasts in middle school math class.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think there is plenty of blame to go around.....the unanswered (and unanswerable) question is would it have bee any different under a different administration.
With all the changing info, I'll bet everyone will
make wrong recommendations wrong at times.
Would Hillary have handled it better? There'll be
many answers, but they don't really know.
 
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