Science, religion and the truth

[WhyIsThatSo]

Or, another option: those that *can* see it are delusional. or mistaken. or subject to an illusion.

This world is the way it is today because people can't "see" it.
So that makes you a part of the problem.....doesn't it ?

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

A claim made with no evidence.



Did I say I had no thought? No, I said I have no voice at times. I just am.



Another claim made with no evidence. In fact, the majority of the evidence points the other way.



Well, I guess you have your beliefs, then. I don't agree.

thought = consciousness = GOD
the "SELF" that you deny you even are,
pretty sad too.

 

[Polymath257]

No your nonsense tries to make me believe that you are not a human being,
the only problem between us is the same as it is with me and MOST other human beings,
and that is that I know you better than you know your SELF.

and you don't like that.

Nope. I simply don't believe it. In fact, I find it clearly false.

Now, you have an opportunity to convince me otherwise. Give actual evidence of your viewpoint that has no other, easier explanation.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No your nonsense tries to make me believe that you are not a human being,
the only problem between us is the same as it is with me and MOST other human beings,
and that is that I know you better than you know your SELF.

and you don't like that.

Okay. So here is a task for you. If you answer this post, include in your post what I will answer. You can do that because you know me better that I do know myself.
Now the problem is that you don't know what I have decided to include, but I already know it.
So answer or don't. If you answer, I will test your ability to know me better than myself.

 

[Polymath257]

This world is the way it is today because people can't "see" it.
So that makes you a part of the problem.....doesn't it ?

Depends on what you see the problem to be: people wanting evidence, or people wanting to believe as you do.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Nope. I simply don't believe it. In fact, I find it clearly false.

Now, you have an opportunity to convince me otherwise. Give actual evidence of your viewpoint that has no other, easier explanation.

lol, you think I'm trying to "convince" you of something ?
No, I can't do that. ONLY YOU can do that.
I'm just giving you food for "thought", because you are going to need it .

 

[Polymath257]

thought = consciousness = GOD
the "SELF" that you deny you even are,
pretty sad too.

Again, your claims. Made with no evidence to back them up.

 

[Polymath257]

lol, you think I'm trying to "convince" you of something ?
No, I can't do that. ONLY YOU can do that.
I'm just giving you food for "thought", because you are going to need it .

I've already thought through your viewpoint (long ago) and rejected it.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Depends on what you see the problem to be: people wanting evidence, or people wanting to believe as you do.

The problem is that people only see themselves,
and fail to see that everyone else around them is exactly the same as they are,
in the only ways that really matter.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Again, your claims. Made with no evidence to back them up.

"Evidence" is not always accepted as such, especially when someone can't "see" it.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

@Polymath257
Thanks for the winner.
You know, science has its use. Turn into a test. Test the hypothesis.

We use different tests in philosophy, but we still use tests. We just don't base them on objective empirical evidence. We test differently.

Regards
Mikkel

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

I've already thought through your viewpoint (long ago) and rejected it.

Good, then "reject" that day that's coming when your breath stops.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Good, then "reject" that day that's coming when your breath stops.

But it can't because it is all consciousness and that doesn't stop. I assume it is eternal.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Okay. So here is a task for you. If you answer this post, include in your post what I will answer. You can do that because you know me better that I do know myself.
Now the problem is that you don't know what I have decided to include, but I already know it.
So answer or don't. If you answer, I will test your ability to know me better than myself.

Let me see now, you are a "human being",
that's ALL i need to know.

Now, go and learn what this means .

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

But it can't because it is all consciousness and that doesn't stop. I assume it is eternal.

Well, I guess you will find out
won't you ?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Let me see now, you are a "human being",
that's ALL i need to know.

Now, go and learn what this means .

I have 2 dogs. Their names are Arjun Lillemand and Bongo Barnet.
You failed your own claim.

Further you keep using 1st and 2nd person singular, they are not the same.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Well, I guess you will find out
won't you ?

Isn't it amazing how a little thing like death
levels the playing field ?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Well, I guess you will find out
won't you ?

Are you threatening me? I am not sure? What are you implying?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Isn't it amazing how a little thing like death
levels the playing field ?

Death is consciousness, because all there is, is consciousness.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Are you threatening me? I am not sure? What are you implying?

I'm implying that one day you will DIE,
no, I guarantee it.