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Trump Admin Policy Screws the Poor. Again.

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
It's one of the "accomplishments" listed positively by those with Trump party affiliations.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Trump administration changes to work requirements needed receive SNAP benefits (ie food stamps) are likely to leave many more people hungry, and are unlikely to significantly increase the number of people working.

https://abcnews-go-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Lifestyle/wireStory/food-stamp-change-fuels-anxiety-states-curb-impact-69389743?usqp=mq331AQQKAGYAbCdhYXamaDRfrABIA==&_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https://www.google.com&share=https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/food-stamp-change-fuels-anxiety-states-curb-impact-69389743

Classic example of the damage done by Trumpist policy.
Working link?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Why so many Evangelicals have turned their back on the poor is so utterly pathetic and in complete contrast to what Jesus taught we must do. It's becoming more and more apparent that they're taking more directions from right-wing politicians and their media than what Jesus and the Apostles taught is a must.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Why so many Evangelicals have turned their back on the poor is so utterly pathetic and in complete contrast to what Jesus taught we must do. It's becoming more and more apparent that they're taking more directions from right-wing politicians and their media than what Jesus and the Apostles taught is a must.
Well, like I continually say, I don't think the really believe what they think they believe.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Well, like I continually say, I don't think the really believe what they think they believe.
They believe it. They just aren't used to thinking and acting without authority taking then how to do it and what is good and what they should do. Like god, and priests, and kings. Obedience and submission is the foundation and heart and soul of their religion. They need to be told, because without by their own life they can't even be moral people.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Why so many Evangelicals have turned their back on the poor is so utterly pathetic and in complete contrast to what Jesus taught we must do. It's becoming more and more apparent that they're taking more directions from right-wing politicians and their media than what Jesus and the Apostles taught is a must.

What did Jesus say about the poor when the girls were pouring that very expensive oil in his hair?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not sure what value system finds it logical to essentially steal from the poor to give to the rich, but... it is a thing, apparently. It's especially ironic that some who hold these values are allegedly Christian, and I doubt Jesus would approve.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I'm not sure what value system finds it logical to essentially steal from the poor to give to the rich, but... it is a thing, apparently. It's especially ironic that some who hold these values are allegedly Christian, and I doubt Jesus would approve.

See my post above you. And Jesus was in the non-judgmental group, btw.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm not sure what value system finds it logical to essentially steal from the poor to give to the rich, but... it is a thing, apparently. It's especially ironic that some who hold these values are allegedly Christian, and I doubt Jesus would approve.
I'm OK with assisting the poor. But if what they're given is being
reduced, to say this is to "steal" from them is misrepresenting
the reality, ie, it wasn't their money. It was someone else's,
which was to be taken from them, & then given to the poor.
The question is how much & in what form they get largesse.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Even tribal peoples -- who are allegedly "primitive" -- take care of their own. Even apes in the wild take care of their own. But the richest nation in the history of the earth cannot? America has become a decadent nation.
Even elephants and other animals take care of their own.

We have people who exhibit utterly selfish words and deeds.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yeah? And? Do you think it's your place to decide their morality?
To be fair, we all get to judge the morality of others.
But this should be done fairly. It seems from some comments
that if some benefits have a work requirement, that the resulting
reduction in payouts is a refusal to support the poor at all.
Such polarization is merely divisive.
Instead, the discussion should be about how best to help them.
If the work requirements are unreasonable, then that should be
the issue.
One problem with our welfare system I've criticized is that when
the poor begin earning more money, their benefits are cut back by
even more than they earn, thereby keeping many of them down.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
To be fair, we all get to judge the morality of others.
But this should be done fairly. It seems from some comments
that if some benefits have a work requirement, that the resulting
reduction in payouts is a refusal to support the poor at all.
Such polarization is merely divisive.
Instead, the discussion should be about how best to help them.
If the work requirements are unreasonable, then that should be
the issue.
One problem with our welfare system I've criticized is that when
the poor begin earning more money, their benefits are cut back by
even more than they earn, thereby keeping many of them down.


Judge? Maybe. Decide? Not even. I, also, believe in helping out when needed, I'm not a monster. But I did a little growing up in the heart of Appalachia in the pre-food stamp days; sometimes you've just got to find a way to help yourself.
 
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