Is There No Way To Save Humanity From Its Self?

[wizanda]

First, no doomsday prophet has been correct

Yeshua prophesied the 2nd temple destruction, diaspora, and that the "I Am" statements by imposters after will deceive many, which has all happened as expected.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

Not that religion never does, but all too often religion teaches people to obey which is not at all the same.

True religion empowers us to understand more about ourselves; it is cults that disempowers, and tell us to obey some leader.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

I think you seriously overestimate the visibility of this forum.

We are on the internet where billions can access it; if it was understood the real Messiah sent from Heaven is on Religious Forums, can you imagine how busy here would become.

Billions of people literally wait for the 2nd coming, and the war of Armageddon is where Christ gathers them to Battle; imagine if we could make that textual, not physical.

As the Source ultimately wants people to understand the wisdoms in the scriptures, the idea people are immoral in their understandings, means it is scary to meet in person; so this makes a clear neutral battle ground in the sky.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

"World peace" is one of those open-ended phrases that you must beware of.

Peace is going to take work between everyone; yet not trying is leading us to World War 3, and the prophesied Great Tribulation.

I'm beginning to think every person I meet has some form of challenging behavioural syndrome, as people just want to debate everything like children do, to the point of not even wanting to seek peace.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

It's not up to any religion or person(s) to save humanity.

This depends on how religion is defined, and currently I see this as part of the problem: people sign up for religions like Macdonalds, where they currently choose one based on a flavour that suit them.

We need to understand that the religions were established as moral social boundaries, that we all should live by; in the past they acted as central government, like Moses & Muhammad created statutory legal systems, and a council.

We now need to evolve religion into something worth keeping as a humanity together, and remove the cult mentality of following one religion, because we like its leader.

This same cult mentality needs removing from politics as well, of following the leader; instead we need to create a system of society that keeps evolving, rather than voting for new labels.

Thus I agree it takes every person understanding peace; yet that is far easier to encompass as a people, when we are all united under the same concept of Oneness, when this differs we fight like Football hooligans.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

There's always a final messenger until the next one comes along.

The prophecies relate: In the 1st coming of the Messiah, Yeshua laid a Snare by Simon the stumbling stone (peter) - (Isaiah 8:11-22).

In the 2nd coming - the Parable of the Fig (Isaiah 28:1-13) the Snare is removed by the Bed of Adultery (Isaiah 28:9-19).

Isaiah 28:20-21 states it is a 'Bed of Adultery' in Hebrew... Isaiah 28:22 tells us there is a Purge coming at the Harvest by Holy Fire.

I think that overpopulation might prevent real progress on utopia because it stresses people out.

There isn't over population, there is bad management of a planet; if the world recognized we are meant to be frugivores, there would be more than enough for everyone.

Spaced out villages with farms are safer than towns or cities; we make our own cacophonies.

We need to study the roots of our behavior because I don't think even Heaven on Earth (or even Heaven in Heaven) is eternally perfect, given that bad things happen in these places. Clearly there are some vital premises we are missing and that's why utopian attempts don't work.

The religious texts already establish why this hasn't worked: chapter 16 of the Bhagavad Gita, etc, explains, we're down in a place closer to Hell, in a world of Desires and Delusions.

When we recognize here is Middle Earth, and we can make it a paradise if we take into account we are down near Hell; as then we can create social boundaries that interact with the environment's requirements.

For example: we have spiky plants, spiky people, and then we make spiky policy to aggravate them more in a prison system with slime-balls, and more spiky people - we can make a system that works, yet we have to realize the requirements of the system.

Like spiky people need someone with protective gloves to care, and that can then lead them to being very productive with that same energy.

Currently though, the prison guards have been lying to the inmates about their religious doctrine; so many down here think themselves saints, when they have a form of illogical psychosis, not to see the dynamics of the environment.

We'd not even be posting on Religious Forums, if we really thought there was no potential in trying; therefore we do believe people can be educated, if given the right instruction, and understanding - thus same applies to a whole planet, we just need to build the right infrastructure between us, and repair the old redundant ideologies.

In my opinion.

 

[Quintessence]

We are on the internet where billions can access it; if it was understood the real Messiah sent from Heaven is on Religious Forums, can you imagine how busy here would become.

Billions of people literally wait for the 2nd coming, and the war of Armageddon is where Christ gathers them to Battle; imagine if we could make that textual, not physical.

As the Source ultimately wants people to understand the wisdoms in the scriptures, the idea people are immoral in their understandings, means it is scary to meet in person; so this makes a clear neutral battle ground in the sky.

In my opinion.

Billions of people also completely lack access to the internet at all or with any regularity. If your god - who I presume is some variant of classical monotheist god - is as smart as they're supposed to be, they wouldn't pick the internet as a medium. They'd pick something everyone actually witnesses. You know, like the sun and the moon? Or the air everyone needs to breathe?

Billions of people also couldn't care less about some second coming of whatever it is, don't believe in this war, Christ, or any of that. Besides, if I wanted to follow a war god, I have an in with a far more appealing one than the one-god.

 

[BeesAir7]

This Shaman says it straight, get the humans off the planet.

 

[Ancient Soul]

No, Amanaki is absolutely right. It's not up to any religion or person(s) to save humanity. It's entirely up to each individual to spiritually evolve enough to "save themselves" from themselves. Nobody else can make them do that.

Actually, that's the whole problem. Everybody wants someone else to do everything for them. They want to sit there like lazy oafs and have someone spoon feed them some crazy man made religion that never does anything to solve anything or magically make them more "spiritual" because they NEVER do anything for themselves. So most people will always sit there all stupid, lazy, and unwilling to DO anything to make themselves better, more spiritual, or help in resolving humanities problems, while the problems of the whole world comes crashing down upon them.

This depends on how religion is defined, and currently I see this as part of the problem: people sign up for religions like Macdonalds, where they currently choose one based on a flavour that suit them.

We need to understand that the religions were established as moral social boundaries, that we all should live by; in the past they acted as central government, like Moses & Muhammad created statutory legal systems, and a council.

We now need to evolve religion into something worth keeping as a humanity together, and remove the cult mentality of following one religion, because we like its leader.

This same cult mentality needs removing from politics as well, of following the leader; instead we need to create a system of society that keeps evolving, rather than voting for new labels.

Thus I agree it takes every person understanding peace; yet that is far easier to encompass as a people, when we are all united under the same concept of Oneness, when this differs we fight like Football hooligans.
In my opinion.

I re-posted my entire post at top because you edited out most of it and used only one small part of it out of context.

Now in a way we are in agreement. HOWEVER, I completely disagree with having even ONE religion. As ALL religions are just man made fake religions that never really have anything to do with God or any true spiritual matters. So they are all written in gobbledygook that always leaves them wide open to miss-interpretations by people who have an evil soul and want to make their religion support their evilness. You just cannot make evil people CHANGE by using even the best religious intentions.

 

[wizanda]

who I presume is some variant of classical monotheist god

We shouldn't assume; I'm one of the 24 Elders of the Divine Council, and defined as the protector of nature in many religions...

We've already caused a Tsunami last time we prayed for people to notice the Source of reality protects nature, and can show greats signs through nature.

You know, like the sun and the moon? Or the air everyone needs to breathe?

Asking for signs like this isn't practical, as people don't respect religious texts any more; if we have a supernova in Orion as prophesied (Amos 5:8, Isaiah 13:10, Joel 2:30-31, Zechariah 14:7), most are not going to expect the Bible prophesied it at the 2nd coming (Luke 21:25-32, Mark 13:24-30, Matthew 24:29-34).

Billions of people also completely lack access to the internet at all or with any regularity.

The point is not convincing everyone, it only takes a few knowledgable Jews, Christians, and Muslims to take their own prophecies seriously, to recognize their Messiah is on Religious Forums; then many people would hear about these conversations, regardless of having the internet.

Billions of people also couldn't care less about some second coming of whatever it is, don't believe in this war, Christ, or any of that.

This is the whole point, the Bible & Quran predict because some people choose to be Unlettered Savages (Gentiles), they will cause this Final Battle to happen, as they don't respect prophecy; which could be there to help us prevent it - if 'We' tried.

Besides, if I wanted to follow a war god, I have an in with a far more appealing one than the one-god.

Religion is one, and as one of the Oak Spirits, this war is being fought by mortals; the Divine in most religious texts globally plans on restoring reality after those who destroy nature are gone (Revelation 11:18).

I'm sent before it happens to announce the coming of the Great Tribulation, to explain how the Source of reality is One (Revelation 10:11); where it is only due to language barriers, and culture, that religions are divided, when the concepts are all speaking about the same reality.

is as smart as they're supposed to be, they wouldn't pick the internet as a medium.

Lets put it this way, as an archangel trying my best to be polite, educated, and follow policy; I find people psychotic on the internet, where if we had these conversations in person, it wouldn't take long before people would form a lynch party, and string me up like they've done in the past to the prophets.

We're down near Hell according to many of the world's religious texts: one of the world's largest religions believe they murdered an archangel to get into Heaven for free - thus the internet is prophesied for a battle in the Sky, that Christ will come on the Clouds, on Lightning from east to west.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

You just cannot make evil people CHANGE by using even the best religious intentions.

We're down near Hell; I find all people evil in some way, else we'd not be down here.

Evil can be converted into something positive, it just takes the right equations.

Which means with the right religious structuring, we could make here much better than it is currently: by recognition of what some of the religious texts already instructed in a clearer format.

As ALL religions are just man made fake religions that never really have anything to do with God or any true spiritual matters.

Since we can show prophecy spanning the whole of known human history, that has happened ahead of time; it would be illogical to assume the Source of reality hasn't guided its instruction, to know the things before they happened.

So they are all written in gobbledygook that always leaves them wide open to miss-interpretations by people who have an evil soul and want to make their religion support their evilness.

The Bible & Quran literally state it is an examination paper by the Source to test mankind (Isaiah 29:9-14, Zechariah 5); yet they don't read it properly, and drink alcohol regularly, so their brains become incapable of deciphering the symbolism.

The Bible is meant to see who the hypocrites are; so it should say 'The Evil Bible', rather than 'The Holy Bible'.

In my opinion.

 

[Ancient Soul]

We're down near Hell; I find all people evil in some way, else we'd not be down here.

Evil can be converted into something positive, it just takes the right equations.

Which means with the right religious structuring, we could make here much better than it is currently: by recognition of what some of the religious texts already instructed in a clearer format.

In my opinion.

You will never get me to agree with that. As I do NOT see ANY religion that can change evil people into good people. They may PRETEND to be "good" in church or in public, but in private they will ALWAYS continue to work their evilness.

The Bible & Quran literally state it is an examination paper by the Source to test mankind (Isaiah 29:9-14, Zechariah 5); yet they don't read it properly, and drink alcohol regularly, so their brains become incapable of deciphering the symbolism.

The Bible is meant to see who the hypocrites are; so it should say 'The Evil Bible', rather than 'The Holy Bible'.

In my opinion.

Ok, I can partly agree with that.