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Inmates

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Are most inmates who have committed some sort of anti-social behavior, mentally ill?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
so you don't believe anti-social behavior is a mental health issue?
Why should it be; most anti-social behaviour around us is by gangs of teenage youths - they can't all have mental issues. Mostly I think it is boredom and peer pressure
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Why should it be; most anti-social behaviour around us is by gangs of teenage youths - they can't all have mental issues. Mostly I think it is boredom and peer pressure

they can't all have mental health issues? why not?


peer pressure is an excuse for anti-social behavior?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
they can't all have mental health issues? why not?


peer pressure is an excuse for anti-social behavior?
I didn't say they haven't; I just said that Anti-social behavior does not equal mental health issues as a given
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
so you don't believe anti-social behavior is a mental health issue?

Of course it can be, but the prison environment certainly exacerbates it. And not all anti-social is due to mental health but ones lived experience. Let me give an example; a couple of months ago we had a prison riot that sent several correction officers to the hospital, some with serious injuries. One officer said something to an inmate as they were walking along and the inmate jumped him and was joined by a number of others which called in more officers. Following came the usual restrictions on the inmates with loss of privileges. There is a constant conflict between punishment and rehabilitation. Not everyone who chooses to break the law can plead mental illness.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Are most inmates who have committed some sort of anti-social behavior, mentally ill?
Define "mentally ill".

Do you consider egotism as "mentally ill"?
Do you consider protesters as "mentally ill"?

"some sort of anti-social behavior" seems problematic as well.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Of course it can be, but the prison environment certainly exacerbates it. And not all anti-social is due to mental health but ones lived experience. Let me give an example; a couple of months ago we had a prison riot that sent several correction officers to the hospital, some with serious injuries. One officer said something to an inmate as they were walking along and the inmate jumped him and was joined by a number of others which called in more officers. Following came the usual restrictions on the inmates with loss of privileges. There is a constant conflict between punishment and rehabilitation. Not everyone who chooses to break the law can plead mental illness.

insanity =\= all mental health issues.

do you believe most people act from mindless behavior?
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
so you don't believe anti-social behavior is a mental health issue?
I do not in any way speak for anyone other than myself.

Seems to me it is a case by case issue.
Some anti-social behaviour is systematic of mental illness.
Some anti-social behaviour is NOT systematic of mental illness.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Simplicity in itself.
Yes, inmates with mental disorders have mental disorders.
i'm asking if the people who end up in prison are there because of their unhealthy thinking, or mental illness. in other words, do they not have an unhealthy way of correcting their problems?
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
i'm asking if the people who end up in prison are there because of their unhealthy thinking, or mental illness. in other words, do they not have an unhealthy way of correcting their problems?
Some of them, sure.
Some are in do to passion ruling reason.
Some because they do not know anything different.

Of course, it has been more than two decades since I ministered inmates.
I have no reason to think the reasons have changes much.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
As I said previously, it is peer pressure, maybe showing off, rebellious. gang culture - teenage angst


ok, but the only difference between them and those behind bars is either they have not committed an offense egregious enough to be prosecuted, or else they just haven't been caught yet.
 
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