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Early Dem State Voters: My recommendation at this point

robocop (actually)

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For visibility I decided to start this out as a new thread as well:

To the five or maybe even a lot more who will listen to me:

Sander's after a huge tax raise wants to spend $25 trillion more in ten years. He wants to spend $65 trillion more.
Bloomberg seems to have a lot of dirt in his pockets that will weigh him down as he tries to sink or swim.

At this point, my suggestion is go with Buttigieg, Warren, Biden or Klobuchar; whichever one has the best chance at the first two, based on what's gone down before your state gets to vote.

This strategy gives, IMO, Democrats the best chance of winning and hopefully, the most happiness you can get.

So again, when it gets to your state, I would vote for Buttigieg, Warren, Biden or Klobuchar whichever has the most chance.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I already voted absentee, and my choice was and is Klobuchar. Anyone who can stand outside in a middle of a snowstorm to announce her run for the presidency just has to have my vote-- a lady to my heart. :heart:
 

robocop (actually)

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I already voted absentee, and my choice was and is Klobuchar. Anyone who can stand outside in a middle of a snowstorm to announce her run for the presidency just has to have my vote-- a lady to my heart. :heart:
I've been planning with my friends to vote for Klobuchar!

But right now this is how I see it.

But then there's a brand new twist! Bloomberg agreed women could tell about what he told them with the non-disclosure agreements. I might wait a bit to see what they say, and at least it was verbal.
 

robocop (actually)

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Klobuchar = the best opponent to Trump and the one who would likely be the best president.

That doesn't mean that voting for her will give Democrats the best statistical happiness at this point though.

But if she does good and Bloomberg does bad, it might be a smart strategy to vote for her indeed!:D
 

dianaiad

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Klobuchar = the best opponent to Trump and the one who would likely be the best president.

That doesn't mean that voting for her will give Democrats the best statistical happiness at this point though.

But if she does good and Bloomberg does bad, it might be a smart strategy to vote for her indeed!:D
Klobuchar = the best opponent to Trump and the one who would likely be the best president.

That doesn't mean that voting for her will give Democrats the best statistical happiness at this point though.

But if she does good and Bloomberg does bad, it might be a smart strategy to vote for her indeed!:D

I don't really 'get' what Klobuchar is advocating for, frankly. What her platform is. Perhaps that's why I would lean in her direction.

Or not.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for Trump, because unless Kobuchar is freakin' fantastic, there ain't any Democrats on the list I'd want anywhere near the White House.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Klobuchar has a lot of things I agree with but at this point a public option healthcare is not enough.
She also wants to keep funding the wall, which is a big no from me.
Warren is my second pick and Bernie is my first
 

robocop (actually)

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Klobuchar has a lot of things I agree with but at this point a public option healthcare is not enough.
She also wants to keep funding the wall, which is a big no from me.
Warren is my second pick and Bernie is my first
Then I would recommend Warren for reasons I've already discussed.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Then I would recommend Warren for reasons I've already discussed.
I like Warren just fine but I think Bernie has stronger polls and is more consistent. Both of them want to greatly increase taxation of the wealthy to set up a true universal healthcare. Both want to slash military budget but I'm a little more confident in Bernie's defense approach.

The one stand out thing I really like about Warren is data protection and real consequences to companies for data breaches. Though I wish any candidate was talking about data privacy more. Especially in regards to net neutrality.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
With Biden's slips it looks more like Sanders, though I think the strongest possible ticket for the Dems would be a combinations of Sanders and Warren. Buttigieg has shown himself too establishment, and I'm not sure if he'd be able to resist Trump's barbs, baiting, and trolling. Klobuchar maybe, but I don't know much about her.
But, this election the Presidency is a small prize compared to redistricting. I think Democrats need to focus on making sure they are the ones who get to do that, because if they can do that they'll be able to cock block Trump anyways so it won't matter if he wins because they will set the stage of power over the next decade.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
If all else fails....

Ballot harvesting.

The socialist Democrat MO.
Apparently you aren't concerned about swaying anyone Left with your incessant charges of "socialist democrat." Two of them doesn't make the entire party of big corporation loving politicians into a party of socialist democrats (who, of course, are very different from socialists and democrats).
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Apparently you aren't concerned about swaying anyone Left with your incessant charges of "socialist democrat." Two of them doesn't make the entire party of big corporation loving politicians into a party of socialist democrats (who, of course, are very different from socialists and democrats).
Oh I'll get proven soon enough when Sanders becomes the nominee.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Oh I'll get proven soon enough when Sanders becomes the nominee.
It still won't make them a party of socialists, no matter how much you want this to be true (moreso than a young group of Millennials I've heard about screaming the Democrat party should be socialist).
 

robocop (actually)

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For the record four of us in Utah couldn't reach a consensus, so one of us voted for Bloomberg and 3 of us including me voted for Biden.

I need a 3 month break from politics.

For the record I support Trump against any viable Democrat.

If you want my church's position on politics, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

Doctrine and Covenants 134

You can read the first 4 verses or all 12.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
For the record four of us in Utah couldn't reach a consensus, so one of us voted for Bloomberg and 3 of us including me voted for Biden.

I need a 3 month break from politics.

For the record I support Trump against any viable Democrat.

If you want my church's position on politics, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,

Doctrine and Covenants 134

You can read the first 4 verses or all 12.
I personally like D&C 98:10
 

robocop (actually)

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“Can” and “do” are very different things.
;)
I like the 2 round caucuses.
I like the idea of making only those with above average IQ able to vote and only really high IQ people run.
I think that Donald Trump, Mitch McConnel and Nanci Pelosi are good, honest and wise.

Now back to my 3 month politics fast.
 
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