Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
In my reading of my Bible, a question has arisen which I think can best be answered by someone in Judaism or Noahidism.
Forgive my errors or misunderstandings.
Hopefully they will not have an affect on my thread.
(I am assuming Noahides utilize the Torah. (Since Noah is mentioned there))
Something recently came to my attention.
I was noticing that wine is mentioned quite often, and I thought that there was no wine or grapes in the Garden of Eden, so I checked and confirmed that. Then I decided to check where wine, or grapes, or vineyard is first mentioned. And I discovered it was with Noah.
I found this to be interesting, because the very first thing that Noah does (written about) after leaving the ark, is to plant a vineyard, make wine, and get drunk.
That does seem a bit odd, and raises many questions. Where did the vines come from? How did he know how to make wine? Why get drunk? Why mention it in the Torah?
You can give me some insight regarding the above if you want to, but my question is this: does wine have some special meaning or special purpose?
The following is more of a bonus type question. If you don’t know or follow anything related to Jesus, just ignore it because the question above is of most interest to me.
I was looking in the writings related to Jesus regarding wine, and noticed that His first miracle was turning water into wine. And this was so it could be used at a wedding party, where the guests had already been given plenty of wine. It seems to me like an odd choice for a miracle, but then I admit I don’t know much. Do you think there is some connection between these two events?
Thanks much in advance. I’m just trying to learn and understand more.
Forgive my errors or misunderstandings.
Hopefully they will not have an affect on my thread.
(I am assuming Noahides utilize the Torah. (Since Noah is mentioned there))
Something recently came to my attention.
I was noticing that wine is mentioned quite often, and I thought that there was no wine or grapes in the Garden of Eden, so I checked and confirmed that. Then I decided to check where wine, or grapes, or vineyard is first mentioned. And I discovered it was with Noah.
I found this to be interesting, because the very first thing that Noah does (written about) after leaving the ark, is to plant a vineyard, make wine, and get drunk.
That does seem a bit odd, and raises many questions. Where did the vines come from? How did he know how to make wine? Why get drunk? Why mention it in the Torah?
You can give me some insight regarding the above if you want to, but my question is this: does wine have some special meaning or special purpose?
The following is more of a bonus type question. If you don’t know or follow anything related to Jesus, just ignore it because the question above is of most interest to me.
I was looking in the writings related to Jesus regarding wine, and noticed that His first miracle was turning water into wine. And this was so it could be used at a wedding party, where the guests had already been given plenty of wine. It seems to me like an odd choice for a miracle, but then I admit I don’t know much. Do you think there is some connection between these two events?
Thanks much in advance. I’m just trying to learn and understand more.