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whats your beef with brexit?

Altfish

Veteran Member
Feel good factor - as usual and like this government only thinking of 'their side'; half the country feels very bad about this.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
It is not Remainers who are angry; it is leavers who still get angry.

Come on ... list the benefits....

Admit it, you can't, you can't name one tangible benefit , can you?

Chill out man!

It’s not doing you any good listening to James O’Brien and reading those left-wing rags.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
You are just parroting O’Brien. If wanted to take any notice of him, I would tune into LBC, but I would have to be desperate.
Still trolling, still no answers, just accusations.
btw I wouldn't know where LBC is on the dial of my radio; mine doesn't get beyond Radio 6
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
On Friday we leave the EU ...
  • without a nationally endorsed plan
  • without our own rights and jobs protected
  • without agreement on security
  • or goods
  • or services
  • or data
  • or regulations
  • or fishing rights..

But
•with a coin and a passport made in France.

And without any light at the end of the tunnel
Could we be more ridiculous?
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
The amount paid in was a lie, the benefits received were understated.
Yes, Turkey did apply for membership, it had to meet certain criteria, it failed and then Erdogan got in and it went backwards - no chance of it joining in the near fututure.

So... the numbers are a lie? And Turkey's never going to join the EU?

I get that the UK received benefits for the amount it paid into the EU and that Turkey's membership process stalled.

But the amount actually paid was significant and the problem with immigration doesn't go away just because Turkey isn't a member of the EU (for the record though, Erdogan has stated that joining the EU remains a "strategic goal").

That said, I don't think winning these arguments is enough to convince leavers.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
So... the numbers are a lie? And Turkey's never going to join the EU?

I get that the UK received benefits for the amount it paid into the EU and that Turkey's membership process stalled.

But the amount actually paid was significant and the problem with immigration doesn't go away just because Turkey isn't a member of the EU (for the record though, Erdogan has stated that joining the EU remains a "strategic goal").

That said, I don't think winning these arguments is enough to convince leavers.
The migration 'problem' will be worse after Brexit.
The UK relies on immigrants , those from the EU were young, fit, paid taxes, cost us little in the way of medical and then went home.
Post Brexit we will have an increase in African and Asian immigrants who do not go home, so we end up with their medical costs as they get old.

I'm not trying to convince leavers, they are indoctrinated by the Sun, Mail, etc. but I believe in facts, not propaganda.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Chill out man!

It’s not doing you any good listening to James O’Brien and reading those left-wing rags.

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Altfish

Veteran Member
I am constantly informed that one of the great benefits of Brexit is that we get our sovereignty back.

So, when I wake up on Saturday morning, I'm worried, I've never had sovereignty. What do I have to do?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
There is a man in a hot-air balloon. He is lost, so he shouts down to a man he sees below, "Excuse me. I am lost can you tell me where I am."
"Of course. You’re at 31 degrees, 14.57 minutes north latitude & 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude," he replies.
"You must be a remainer," he says. "I am. How did you know?" "Because everything you told me is factually correct, but the information doesn't help me, and I’m still lost. Frankly, you’ve been no help." "You must be a Leaver," he replies "Yes. How did you know?"
"You have decided to put yourself in this position. You’ve risen due to a lot of hot air. You aren't in control of what you are doing, & you expect me to solve your problem. You’re in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow now it is my fault."
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
European Parliament MEPs sing Auld Lang Syne to respect the end of Britain’s EU membership and that old acquaintances shall not be forgotten.

Brexit Party MEPs hurl insults at the European Parliament, boast about Brexit and wave Union Jack flags.


Farage and his ilk really are pathetic
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
On Friday we leave the EU ...
  • without a nationally endorsed plan
  • without our own rights and jobs protected
  • without agreement on security
  • or goods
  • or services
  • or data
  • or regulations
  • or fishing rights..

But
•with a coin and a passport made in France.
Don't forget: Big Ben's going to go "bong"!

Well, actually, no, it won't...

But some people will stand near Big Ben and maybe play the sound of it going "bong" through big speakers!

So.

That's...

Something?
 
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