Unveiled Artist
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Humans have (generalizing on purpose) the same senses: we perceive things with body-five senses, spirit-gut instinct-gut feeling, mind-psych, and (how do I say. I don't know) six sense-intuition not aligned with the reality we are familiar with.
So, when we experience something whether situational, emotional, clinical, so have you regardless of our interpretation of it, at its most basic raw form, we all have the same experiences.
Take pain. If one person steps on a nail and another person hit by someone else, regardless the situation, interpretation, etc the body registers pain the same way.
So, I would assume spiritual experiences are just the same we just interpret it differently, culturally, linguistically, and critically, but the feeling (actual feeling-psych and physical and heart) are just the same. aka. We are ALL human.
1. So, if someone says "you just got to experience it to 'get it'" what does that even mean in light that we are all humans and we all experience "pain" regardless how we interpret it and how we feel our experiences are "ours" and that no one else can share?
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For a quick example, I'm just meeting this woman who says she doesn't want a relationship cause of healing from her ex. I just met her. She told me couple days ago since I haven't experienced "hurt from a break up" I won't 'get it'. Which is an insult because we experience pain in many different ways but we are all human.
So, I extended this to a spiritual/religious concept rather than a relationship one. When I hear someone says they have a spiritual experience and the other says explain it, and they receive the answer "you have to be there to experience it"
2. What about spirituality that is so personal that lack of ability to express the experience = it's too complex in and of itself to be understood unless experienced?
Take it as ye will.
This just kind of irritated me when reading these threads and thinking about the lady I'm talking to.
So, when we experience something whether situational, emotional, clinical, so have you regardless of our interpretation of it, at its most basic raw form, we all have the same experiences.
Take pain. If one person steps on a nail and another person hit by someone else, regardless the situation, interpretation, etc the body registers pain the same way.
So, I would assume spiritual experiences are just the same we just interpret it differently, culturally, linguistically, and critically, but the feeling (actual feeling-psych and physical and heart) are just the same. aka. We are ALL human.
1. So, if someone says "you just got to experience it to 'get it'" what does that even mean in light that we are all humans and we all experience "pain" regardless how we interpret it and how we feel our experiences are "ours" and that no one else can share?
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For a quick example, I'm just meeting this woman who says she doesn't want a relationship cause of healing from her ex. I just met her. She told me couple days ago since I haven't experienced "hurt from a break up" I won't 'get it'. Which is an insult because we experience pain in many different ways but we are all human.
So, I extended this to a spiritual/religious concept rather than a relationship one. When I hear someone says they have a spiritual experience and the other says explain it, and they receive the answer "you have to be there to experience it"
2. What about spirituality that is so personal that lack of ability to express the experience = it's too complex in and of itself to be understood unless experienced?
Take it as ye will.
This just kind of irritated me when reading these threads and thinking about the lady I'm talking to.