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Was Ted Cruz Right?

A blast from he past, but a highly important one in our post-fact era of forgetfulness:

Was Ted Cruz right when he said this? Was he making an accurate assessment based on the evidence of Trump’s behavior?

Is it appropriate to question everything that a powerful man fitting Cruz’ description does, or can that be dismissed as “Trump Derangement Syndrome”?

So many questions ....


I’m going to tell you what I really think about Donald Trump. This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And in a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying ... Whatever he does, he accuses everybody else of doing.

The man cannot tell the truth but he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at a level I don’t think this country has ever seen.
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And I say pathological because if you hooked Donald Trump to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing in the afternoon and one thing in the evening, all contradictory, and he’d pass. ... Whatever lie he’s telling at that minute, he believes it.

But the man is utterly amoral. Morality does not exist for him
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Donald is a bully. But bullies don’t come from strength they come from weakness. There’s a reason Donald puts his name in giant letters on all his buildings everywhere he goes.

There are millions of people in this country who are angry at politicians, and I understand that anger. I share that anger. And Donald Trump is cynically exploiting that anger. And he’s lying to his supporters.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
This is a sadly classic example of a lack of integrity. The journey from saying what he believes to kissing Trump's butt illustrates a root problem.

And of course the problem is not limited to him.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
A blast from he past, but a highly important one in our post-fact era of forgetfulness:

Was Ted Cruz right when he said this? Was he making an accurate assessment based on the evidence of Trump’s behavior?

Is it appropriate to question everything that a powerful man fitting Cruz’ description does, or can that be dismissed as “Trump Derangement Syndrome”?

So many questions ....


I’m going to tell you what I really think about Donald Trump. This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And in a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying ... Whatever he does, he accuses everybody else of doing.

The man cannot tell the truth but he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at a level I don’t think this country has ever seen.
...
And I say pathological because if you hooked Donald Trump to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing in the afternoon and one thing in the evening, all contradictory, and he’d pass. ... Whatever lie he’s telling at that minute, he believes it.

But the man is utterly amoral. Morality does not exist for him
...
Donald is a bully. But bullies don’t come from strength they come from weakness. There’s a reason Donald puts his name in giant letters on all his buildings everywhere he goes.

There are millions of people in this country who are angry at politicians, and I understand that anger. I share that anger. And Donald Trump is cynically exploiting that anger. And he’s lying to his supporters.

Yeah, Cruz was right. And, ironically, Cruz is now a loyal supporter of Trump. So what does that tell us about Cruz?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
A blast from he past, but a highly important one in our post-fact era of forgetfulness:

Was Ted Cruz right when he said this? Was he making an accurate assessment based on the evidence of Trump’s behavior?

Is it appropriate to question everything that a powerful man fitting Cruz’ description does, or can that be dismissed as “Trump Derangement Syndrome”?

So many questions ....


I’m going to tell you what I really think about Donald Trump. This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And in a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying ... Whatever he does, he accuses everybody else of doing.

The man cannot tell the truth but he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at a level I don’t think this country has ever seen.
...
And I say pathological because if you hooked Donald Trump to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing in the afternoon and one thing in the evening, all contradictory, and he’d pass. ... Whatever lie he’s telling at that minute, he believes it.

But the man is utterly amoral. Morality does not exist for him
...
Donald is a bully. But bullies don’t come from strength they come from weakness. There’s a reason Donald puts his name in giant letters on all his buildings everywhere he goes.

There are millions of people in this country who are angry at politicians, and I understand that anger. I share that anger. And Donald Trump is cynically exploiting that anger. And he’s lying to his supporters.
Name one politician who doesn't habitually lie?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Name one politician who doesn't habitually lie?
Lying is not like virginity - a binary question. And for that matter can you name one person who does not lie on a regular basis?

A politician who promises something she can't deliver and knows she can't deliver is lying. Lying under oath is something else.

I wish the ethical/moral level of humanity was higher but as it is, I differentiate motivation, quantity and additional factors such as gaslighting being involved.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Fair enough. So how can you make up your own mind? What evidence do you need or what information are you lacking?
For whom? Cruz or Trump?

I really don't care about a person's character. They can both lie like Pinocchio if they want.

I care more about the policies that particular person puts out.

To put it in perspective, I think Obama was more truthful than Trump, but the policies state the biggest truth as far as I'm concerned.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
For whom? Cruz or Trump?

I really don't care about a person's character. They can both lie like Pinocchio if they want.

I care more about the policies that particular person puts out.

To put it in perspective, I think Obama was more truthful than Trump, but the policies state the biggest truth as far as I'm concerned.
How do you trust someone who can't be honest with you?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
How do you trust someone who can't be honest with you?
That's the way I see it as well but broaden it to integrity. If someone is without honor, then I have zero trust in him and assume that everything he does is to my detriment.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Is it appropriate to question everything that a powerful man fitting Cruz’ description does, or can that be dismissed as “Trump Derangement Syndrome”?)

A better question is why he flipped to backing Trump. Cruz is talking about himself at this point in a way.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
A blast from he past, but a highly important one in our post-fact era of forgetfulness:

Was Ted Cruz right when he said this? Was he making an accurate assessment based on the evidence of Trump’s behavior?

Is it appropriate to question everything that a powerful man fitting Cruz’ description does, or can that be dismissed as “Trump Derangement Syndrome”?

So many questions ....


I’m going to tell you what I really think about Donald Trump. This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And in a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying ... Whatever he does, he accuses everybody else of doing.

The man cannot tell the truth but he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at a level I don’t think this country has ever seen.
...
And I say pathological because if you hooked Donald Trump to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing in the afternoon and one thing in the evening, all contradictory, and he’d pass. ... Whatever lie he’s telling at that minute, he believes it.

But the man is utterly amoral. Morality does not exist for him
...
Donald is a bully. But bullies don’t come from strength they come from weakness. There’s a reason Donald puts his name in giant letters on all his buildings everywhere he goes.

There are millions of people in this country who are angry at politicians, and I understand that anger. I share that anger. And Donald Trump is cynically exploiting that anger. And he’s lying to his supporters.
I saw the title and this video immediately came to mind. Yes, Ted Cruz has been incredibly right, in the past.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
A blast from he past, but a highly important one in our post-fact era of forgetfulness:

Was Ted Cruz right when he said this? Was he making an accurate assessment based on the evidence of Trump’s behavior?

Is it appropriate to question everything that a powerful man fitting Cruz’ description does, or can that be dismissed as “Trump Derangement Syndrome”?

So many questions ....


I’m going to tell you what I really think about Donald Trump. This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And in a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying ... Whatever he does, he accuses everybody else of doing.

The man cannot tell the truth but he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at a level I don’t think this country has ever seen.
...
And I say pathological because if you hooked Donald Trump to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing in the afternoon and one thing in the evening, all contradictory, and he’d pass. ... Whatever lie he’s telling at that minute, he believes it.

But the man is utterly amoral. Morality does not exist for him
...
Donald is a bully. But bullies don’t come from strength they come from weakness. There’s a reason Donald puts his name in giant letters on all his buildings everywhere he goes.

There are millions of people in this country who are angry at politicians, and I understand that anger. I share that anger. And Donald Trump is cynically exploiting that anger. And he’s lying to his supporters.
I’ll answer your question after you answer the OP question, which you dodged. Was Ted Cruz right?
E.g. 911, Iraqi wmd? Comes with territory.
 
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