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Could a woman President actually be good for America?

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
We believe in giving people a helping hand to stand on their own too feat unlike the right who wants to give a helping hand to the rich who don't need it and a boat anchor to those "drowning" because of their economic condition.

And unlike some on this forum, I've known unemployed people and those with disabilities who get welfare (not counting the super rich who get welfare of a different kind for being rich). To a person, they've wanted to have good jobs and worked hard to get on their own two feet.

I also volunteer for an organization whose motto is "all of us taking care of all of us" which recognizes that I'm not above and aloof from those on the bottom.

I agree in principle but when you have generations of people made dependent on the government lam I tend to get suspicious.
 

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
I say give a WOMAN a shot at TWH.

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a Woman Prez

What does America really have to lose?
It's worth a try.
 
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Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Even more when you notice in the first place the very infrastructure required for making a living all together has been literally ripped out and destroyed in the fanatical process of bringing about those fine things.

Of course the concept of foresight has been stricken from the record making it an unknown term for the eco Nazis riding their noble white steeds envisioning themselves as the ultimate savior of the whole of mankind as they continue to burn peoples careers and stable means of living to the ground.

Why is it that the rest of the developed world (i.e. don't go citing 3rd world countries as counter examples) doesn't have these supposed problems?
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
While one can hear too much accordion music, you need at least a little brass for a good polka, I don't think you can have too much lefse or lutefisk. That is why all of those fund raisers are "all you can eat"

Oh darn! My roots are showing.
Hey, it's where I live. :) I've had some good lutefisk at the Swedish Institute (even though I'm Norwegian); make homemade lefse, but the only accordion music I like is Zydeco, but that's not really from around here. Aside from that, it's a fairly progressive state, so I'm happy here, you betcha.

What do you call 20 accordions at the bottom of the ocean?

A good start.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Hey, it's where I live. :) I've had some good lutefisk at the Swedish Institute (even though I'm Norwegian); make homemade lefse, but the only accordion music I like is Zydeco, but that's not really from around here. Aside from that, it's a fairly progressive state, so I'm happy here, you betcha.

What do you call 20 accordions at the bottom of the ocean?

A good start.
I grew up there. And it was colder when I lived there. A few years back there were headlines when an arctic blast sent temperature tumbling to -20. My reaction? So what. It used to get that cold every winter. We called it "January". My brother disagreed with me and since we were at his place I told him to look it up on his computer. He came back and said that I was correct. From the 1960's to 1980 very cold winters were the norm. The coldest that I ever saw in Minneapolis was -29 one winter. I was out in it without a hat or gloves (I did have a very good scarf). My eyeglasses iced up so I had to take them off. Then the cold air caused my eyes to water a little bit and every time that I blinked my eyelashes would freeze shut for a fraction of a second. Man, that was cold!
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I agree in principle but when you have generations of people made dependent on the government lam I tend to get suspicious.
Oh there are some, no doubt about it at all, who grow up believing that their lives will be dependent. This is true both of the poor and the very rich who depend on trust funds. Dependency is indeed a problem among some.

I help out sometimes with a project designed to take a few kids and give them experiences designed to help them see beyond their upbringing. When you run into a child who lives 2 blocks from the ocean but has never played on the beach (true story in Myrtle Beach), giving the kids a chance to have normal experiences of playing in the ocean, having a good meal, getting some toys, and being shown that people think highly of them can at least for some change their lives. https://www.followingfrancis.one/francisinthedunes
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The coldest that I ever saw in Minneapolis was -29 one winter. I was out in it without a hat or gloves (I did have a very good scarf). My eyeglasses iced up so I had to take them off. Then the cold air caused my eyes to water a little bit and every time that I blinked my eyelashes would freeze shut for a fraction of a second. Man, that was cold!
Yes, without proper preparation, you're doomed. I'm in the cities now, but grew up 120 miles further north of here. -30 was a frequent temp, some days hitting lower than that, -35 to -38. That was frigid, to the say the least. My story of a night with temps that low, it was the middle of the night, working at a lone radio station up north way. I headed into town to pick up some grub at a gas station and headed back to the station. My car stalled about a half mile away. Stupidly, in my naive youth, I thought I should run to the station to get out of the bitter cold. And so I did.

Never have I felt the pain of what it is to freeze your lungs, breathing heavily and sucking that death-knife into your lungs. I learned my lesson. Next time, just walk and think warm thoughts.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, without proper preparation, you're doomed. I'm in the cities now, but grew up 120 miles further north of here. -30 was a frequent temp, some days hitting lower than that, -35 to -38. That was frigid, to the say the least. My story of a night with temps that low, it was the middle of the night, working at a lone radio station up north way. I headed into town to pick up some grub at a gas station and headed back to the station. My car stalled about a half mile away. Stupidly, in my naive youth, I thought I should run to the station to get out of the bitter cold. And so I did.

Never have I felt the pain of what it is to freeze your lungs, breathing heavily and sucking that death-knife into your lungs. I learned my lesson. Next time, just walk and think warm thoughts.
Let's not forget the blizzards. I spent a fair amount of time growing up on a Grade B dairy farm that my father bought about thirty miles south of Minneapolis. He did not buy it as a farm, but more as a place to raise a family. He still worked in the city. Our driveway was half a mile long and one winter when it was really blowing my Dad's Ford LTD station wagon got stuck about half way to the house. He decided he better pull the aerial up, just in case. The next day there was no sign of the car. Nothing. Just a giant big flat snowdrift. My brother was standing on top of the car when the aerial was finally spotted. We had a neighbor with an industrial snowblower that fit on the front of his tractor, but we still had to dig around the car by hand so that he would not hit it.

But yes, northern Minnesota was often ten degrees colder than what we had in the south Quite a large difference for not the long of a distance.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Let's not forget the blizzards. I spent a fair amount of time growing up on a Grade B dairy farm that my father bought about thirty miles south of Minneapolis. He did not buy it as a farm, but more as a place to raise a family. He still worked in the city. Our driveway was half a mile long and one winter when it was really blowing my Dad's Ford LTD station wagon got stuck about half way to the house. He decided he better pull the aerial up, just in case. The next day there was no sign of the car. Nothing. Just a giant big flat snowdrift. My brother was standing on top of the car when the aerial was finally spotted. We had a neighbor with an industrial snowblower that fit on the front of his tractor, but we still had to dig around the car by hand so that he would not hit it.

But yes, northern Minnesota was often ten degrees colder than what we had in the south Quite a large difference for not the long of a distance.
I miss the days of orange tennis balls on top of the antenas, with those awesome rear-wheel drive beasts that got stuck in everything. Oh for the days when we road our snowmobiles into work. I love that he was on top of the car, when he found it. LOL!
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Oh there are some, no doubt about it at all, who grow up believing that their lives will be dependent. This is true both of the poor and the very rich who depend on trust funds. Dependency is indeed a problem among some.

I help out sometimes with a project designed to take a few kids and give them experiences designed to help them see beyond their upbringing. When you run into a child who lives 2 blocks from the ocean but has never played on the beach (true story in Myrtle Beach), giving the kids a chance to have normal experiences of playing in the ocean, having a good meal, getting some toys, and being shown that people think highly of them can at least for some change their lives. https://www.followingfrancis.one/francisinthedunes
Poverty isn't just a lack of money, it's a lack of hope. A perceived lack of possibility.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Americans by birth don't deserve to have their Dream sold or given away. It is Washington's fault (and Sacramento's fault) for letting those foreigners in. A foreigner's gain shouldn't be my loss. It's not American to deprive Americans by birth.
What is this "dream" we are allegedly entitled to? Dreams are dreams. Foreigners have done nothing to economically harm lazy or hard working Americans.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
In 1979, my father worked 40-hour work weeks to support a family of four people (plus 8 dogs and two cats) living in a 3-br/2-car home and we paid off our 1975 Toyota station wagon we bought new. He was a DOD electrician for the Dept. of the Navy at Mare Island Naval Shipyard in Vallejo, California. He transferred there from Hunter's Point in San Francisco in 1973. My mother was a stay-at-home housewife as was my grandmother. We lived a good middle-class life then in now-very-rich Woodside, California. My grandfather and my grandmother in Woodside also lived high on the hog from my grandfather's pension, he retired in 1973, from union operating engineers, heavy equipment operator, 15 years. My grandparents had a nice Woodside, CA home of their own and two rental 3-br home units next door built in 1965. Both my father and grandfather had 40-hour work weeks and had weekends off. I want only what my father and grandfather had and no more but no less. Every generation of parents always wanted better for their children.

My family often ate T-bone/Porterhouse steaks and pizza on paydays. Most food was home-cooked by my mother as baked ham, pot roast and fried chicken. We also had a 1973 Datsun pickup truck.
On birthdays all during the 1970's we had nice cakes from fancy bakeries in Hillsdale Mall in San Mateo, CA. Yummy Chantilly chocolate cakes from Blum's bakery and divine rich St. Honore puff-pastry cream liqueur cakes from Petrini's bakery. Life for my 1970's middle-class working-class American family was sweet and delicious.

The Dem Libs progressively opened our borders and all these vipers from The East slithered in. This is why I can no longer enjoy my Petrini's St. Honore cakes in San Mateo, CA. This is why I can no longer enjoy summers on sandy warm California beaches. California was an American Dream when the Beach Boys were young and Momma Cass was alive.
Military isn't just working any job full time.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
No one wants to take your guns. That's a threat the gun lobby keeps throwing at you to get you to fight any and all forms of gun regulation.

You should add up the cost of those things you listed and see what you would have to earn each month to afford them. And then consider this (from a social security office report):
-38 percent of all American workers made less than $20,000 last year.

-51 percent of all American workers made less than $30,000 last year.

-62 percent of all American workers made less than $40,000 last year.

-71 percent of all American workers made less than $50,000 last year.

Source?

Only looking at the results tends to ignore the why factor. If 38% has a lot of students then your post is deceptive as their low wages is due to their own choice to attend a post-secondary school.
 
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Earthtank

Active Member
We have had white guys, a black guy and now an orange guy, I highly doubt being a woman means she will be better/worse simply because she is a woman.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
This woman would have to not be pushing for more gun control as that does not sit well with voters in most Red states. The woman should also have to be compassionate toward the poor, the elderly, veterans and people with disabilities. She would have to support a strong middle-class and a strong manufacturing base and much improved infrastructure. Stewardship of the environment is also important. She also needs a tough immigration policy and an objective foreign policy. I want better work-life balance for working-class Americans. This working two or more jobs to make ends meet doesn't cut it with me. I like the middle-class lifestyle that unions would favor.

Policy and character matter not one's sex.
 
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