What? No war !

[shmogie]

Many democrats are no doubt disappointed, the killing of Iran's terrorist general has not resulted in WW3.

Iran's response ? We were advised by them where and when they would fire tens of missiles that harmed no one. They were extremely careful not to cross Trumps red line of massive response if they killed any Americans.

As always, when faced with real force, they backed down. This massive war machine we were told existed, and would smash us, turned out to be not much.

Iran is confused, Americans have for years let them do as they chose, suddenly they got whacked for their killing, and they have absolutely no desire to be sliced up.

I have absolutely no doubt that there are some democrats who wanted Americans to be killed, to prove their narrative of fear of Iran, and a serious error on the part of Trump.

 

[Revoltingest]

Many democrats are no doubt disappointed, the killing of Iran's terrorist general has not resulted in WW3.

I've noticed their newly deafening silence here on RF.
No backpedaling....just acting as though they never made the claims.
They're always right cuz they never admit being wrong, eh.

Anyway, I still see Trump's policies towards Iran as dangerous.
I just won't make predictions about how it will all play out.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Right. Because that's how escalation works. If there's not a full blown declared war within a day or two of the initial incident, that's it, it's all over.

 

[Salvador]

Right. Because that's how escalation works. If there's not a full blown declared war within a day or two of the initial incident, that's it, it's all over.

I'd like to speculate that Iran's non-lethal attack against Iraqi military bases hosting American military troops is a face saving move on Iran's part; this non-lethal designed strike is a cry from Iran that it does not dare escalate an armed conflict with the U.S. military as led by Commander-in-Chief Donald J. Trump.

Please allow me to hypothesis there being an Iran having realized that if any American troops in Iraq were to get killed by guided missiles launched from Iran, then the U.S. could wage electronic warfare on Iran in order to render Iranian electronic powered weapons useless.

 

[Stanyon]

It would kind of blow the whole reactionary partisan "Trump wants to start a war to get elected" narrative if we don't have one, I imagine it would be a complete embarrassment for them.
Fear mongering is their game.

 

[pearl]

As always, when faced with real force, they backed down. This massive war machine we were told existed, and would smash us, turned out to be not much.

You're making a big mistake thinking that the revenge for the assassination is over. It will be answered for in a time of their choosing. Because it was not immediate means nothing.

 

[Salvador]

It would kind of blow the whole reactionary partisan "Trump wants to start a war to get elected" narrative if we don't have one, I imagine it would be a complete embarrassment for them.
Fear mongering is their game.

I reckon most Democrats are way beyond the shame of being embarrassed and humiliated.

The odds of a Trump second-term Presidency along with a Republican controlled U.S. Congress for 2021 is looking pretty certain.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Many democrats are no doubt disappointed, the killing of Iran's terrorist general has not resulted in WW3.

Iran's response ? We were advised by them where and when they would fire tens of missiles that harmed no one. They were extremely careful not to cross Trumps red line of massive response if they killed any Americans.

Actually, he promised retaliation if Iran struck "any U.S person or target." (SOURCE: Donald J. Trump on Twitter)

But, we can chalk that up to pure bravado.

As always, when faced with real force, they backed down. This massive war machine we were told existed, and would smash us, turned out to be not much.

Well, based on Trump's attitude in the media, it would appear he's the one who backed down, since he promised to respond to any retaliation, then Iran DID retaliate and Trump is refusing to respond.

But, hey, de-escalation is de-escalation.

Iran is confused, Americans have for years let them do as they chose, suddenly they got whacked for their killing, and they have absolutely no desire to be sliced up.

I have absolutely no doubt that there are some democrats who wanted Americans to be killed, to prove their narrative of fear of Iran, and a serious error on the part of Trump.

Well, what's important is that you get another imaginary narrative to demonize democrats with that can't be proven wrong. Good for you!

 

[stvdv]

They were extremely careful not to cross Trumps red line of massive response if they killed any Americans.
Iran is confused, Americans have for years let them do as they chose, suddenly they got whacked for their killing, and they have absolutely no desire to be sliced up.

Some people do have long term memory.

 

[Salvador]

You're making a big mistake thinking that the revenge for the assassination is over. It will be answered for in a time of their choosing. Because it was not immediate means nothing.

I'm confident Donald J. Trump isn't some girly-man who's going to be intimated by idle threats.

 

[pearl]

I'm confident Donald J. Trump isn't some girly-man who's going to be intimated by idle threats.

And apparently neither he nor you have any need to consider history.

 

[Salvador]

And apparently neither he nor you have any need to consider history.

Please let's consider never before in history has their been a military force now like the U.S. that could wage electronic warfare on its enemy in order to render its enemy's electronic powered weapons useless.

 

[Revoltingest]

Please let's consider never before in history has their been a military force now like the U.S. that could wage electronic warfare on its enemy in order to render its enemy's electronic powered weapons useless.

Who says Iran hasn't developed resistant or the same technology?

Complex things like war aren't solved simply. It would be like saying
that I'm going to destroy Bobby Fisher by using the Salvador Opening..
He just might do unanticipated things, & play well despite my having
a big opening.

 

[exchemist]

Many democrats are no doubt disappointed, the killing of Iran's terrorist general has not resulted in WW3.

Iran's response ? We were advised by them where and when they would fire tens of missiles that harmed no one. They were extremely careful not to cross Trumps red line of massive response if they killed any Americans.

As always, when faced with real force, they backed down. This massive war machine we were told existed, and would smash us, turned out to be not much.

Iran is confused, Americans have for years let them do as they chose, suddenly they got whacked for their killing, and they have absolutely no desire to be sliced up.

I have absolutely no doubt that there are some democrats who wanted Americans to be killed, to prove their narrative of fear of Iran, and a serious error on the part of Trump.

It was you that was advocating war, to destroy the "mad mullahs", a couple of days ago.

What has happened is a further reinforcement of the enmity between the USA and Iran. This will be reflected in due time by further attacks on US interests and quite likely by the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran. Their efforts to influence Shia islam across the Middle East will redouble.

 

[pearl]

Please let's consider never before in history has their been a military force now like the U.S. that could wage electronic warfare on its enemy in order to render its enemy's electronic powered weapons useless.

Are you foolish enough to think they do not have the same capacity?

 

[Salvador]

Are you foolish enough to think they do not have the same capacity?

Who says Iran hasn't developed resistant or the same technology?

Complex things like war aren't solved simply. It would be like saying
that I'm going to destroy Bobby Fisher by using the Salvador Opening..
He just might play well despite my having a big opening.

What has happened is a further reinforcement of the enmity between the USA and Iran. This will be reflected in due time by further attacks on US interests and quite likely by the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran. Their efforts to influence Shia islam across the Middle East will redouble.

Hypothetically, harsh economic sanctions imposed on Iran by the U.S. and its allies should've crippled Iran away from having the technological capacity of developing effective counter-measures in order to protect Iranian electronic powered weapons from being rendered useless by powerful electromagnetic pulses that the U.S. military could direct against Iran.

If Iran were to have built any underground military facilities for shielding their weapons against any electromagnetic pulses, the U.S. military could just as well take them out by the Mother of All Bombs.

GBU-43/B MOAB - Wikipedia

 

[Nakosis]

Many democrats are no doubt disappointed, the killing of Iran's terrorist general has not resulted in WW3.

Iran's response ? We were advised by them where and when they would fire tens of missiles that harmed no one. They were extremely careful not to cross Trumps red line of massive response if they killed any Americans.

As always, when faced with real force, they backed down. This massive war machine we were told existed, and would smash us, turned out to be not much.

Iran is confused, Americans have for years let them do as they chose, suddenly they got whacked for their killing, and they have absolutely no desire to be sliced up.

I have absolutely no doubt that there are some democrats who wanted Americans to be killed, to prove their narrative of fear of Iran, and a serious error on the part of Trump.

Trump responded exactly as I thought he should to the rocket attacks. Guess I can't complain. Still seems like a bit of a gamble that paid off for Trump.

News media is getting a bit laughable in their continued wrong predictions. I guess they keep hoping that their prediction will come true. Guess the news media has gotten out of the reporting business and got into the fortune telling business.

 

[oldbadger]

Many democrats are no doubt disappointed, the killing of Iran's terrorist general has not resulted in WW3.

Iran's response ? We were advised by them where and when they would fire tens of missiles that harmed no one. They were extremely careful not to cross Trumps red line of massive response if they killed any Americans.

As always, when faced with real force, they backed down. This massive war machine we were told existed, and would smash us, turned out to be not much.

Iran is confused, Americans have for years let them do as they chose, suddenly they got whacked for their killing, and they have absolutely no desire to be sliced up.

I have absolutely no doubt that there are some democrats who wanted Americans to be killed, to prove their narrative of fear of Iran, and a serious error on the part of Trump.

The I've is a typical example of extreme political tribalism, imo.

Laughable if it was not so sad.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd like to bet harsh economic sanctions on Iran have prevented them from developing effective counter-measures to protect their electronic powered weapons from being rendered useless by powerful electromagnetic pulses.

If Iran were to have built any underground military facilities for shielding their weapons against any electromagnetic pulses, the U.S. military could just as well take them out by the Mother of All Bombs.

GBU-43/B MOAB - Wikipedia

How many MOABs do we have?
How many would it take?

 

[Stanyon]

I reckon most Democrats are way beyond the shame of being embarrassed and humiliated.

The ignominy of the democrats is well known and in some cases their toxic brand of tribalism blinds them to it, on the other hand it seems many might just be run of the mill masochists. I imagine some actually pray that Trump wins in 2020 so their humiliation is complete!