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Do we Realize Isaiah 13:10 Prophesied Betelgeuse Will go Supernova?

Do you accept Judgement Day is soon?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 16.1%
  • No

    Votes: 22 71.0%
  • Other...?

    Votes: 4 12.9%

  • Total voters
    31

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
In Isaiah 13:10 it states that the sun to be darkened is the constellation Orion, which according to mainstream media will soon go supernova; which fits the prophecies where the fire will burn our faces in that day (Isaiah 13:8).

The debate is do we realize we have little time left before Judgement Day, and then after the Messianic Age?

In my opinion. :innocent:

The constellation Orion is just a grouping of stars that look like a pattern from our particular vantage point. There is a single star within this group which may or may or may not have exploded. The light takes about 430 years to reach us, so it could have already exploded tens of millions of years ago and we would not yet know it.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
The Bible has one prophetic line King David became Yehoshua with the spirit of Salvation (Yeshua) placed onto him; now I'm back as King Zion/David/Yehoshua, with the Spirit of Salvation coming soon as an avenging Fire by Source.

As the being at the beginning of reality; who still speaks in Parables (Ezekiel 20:49) before the Fire at the End.

The first and last letter is 'Z and A'.

As the scriptures say, 'a wise man will thank you.'

In my opinion. :innocent:
Your answer is a clear giveaway, you are definitely not an enlightened person, because again you answer are out of context to the previous posts.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Unless Jesus comes back sooner, of course.
We can prove I'm here as Christ before Judgement Day as prophesied; not sure why people keep saying 'when Christ comes', and ignoring all the evidence presented from all the world's religious text on the forum.

It makes very little sense that the whole world rejects the 2nd coming, (Luke 17:25, Revelation 13:8-10, Quran 43:60-77); yet as it is written people are to wicked to even listen properly, without trying to argue, and accuse (satan), that someone else is always wrong.

In Revelation 14:10-12 is the Supernova, with the Fire and Brimstone that shall burn the earth, and as the Archangel/Messiah sent before it, I'm saying it is soon (Deuteronomy 32).

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
The links stating these things are happening weren't from me, they were from far more qualified people in the topic than me; so stop blaming the messenger, for repeating what we can show is happening.

If people were more realistic, and actually accepted the crap is hitting the fan; we could then make change, as people only start making change when it becomes uncomfortable.

In my opinion. :innocent:

Yes, but the crap hitting the fan could be said for almost any era. You seem to be picking out various events as if these are unique when they are not (supernovas are no doubt common compared to the timescale of our existence). We haven't witnessed such prophesizing before? I think we have - so why would we believe you?

I have the simple problem of not taking anything in any religious texts as being factual for the rather obvious reason - how can we trust such when the knowledge around then was hardly above caveman level? If something practical had emanated from early religious texts, apart from rather nebulous stuff (like love one another) I might be more inclined to take them seriously, and unfortunately many have the habit of finding whatever evidence they are looking for - it's called bias.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Your answer is a clear giveaway, you are definitely not an enlightened person, because again you answer are out of context to the previous posts.
True, if I was more enlightened, I'd recognize every brainwave pattern; where then I'd not give an ape a calculator, and ask it to solve calculus.

The idea it throws the calculator at me though, shows it has emotional issues, where it needs counselling; where as an archangel I'd do better at explaining how we can fix human psychology.

As the both of us have been traumatised by past bullying interactions; I do not throw calculators back at people, I give them the answers, even if it means being caned by the headmaster for cheating.

We should learn within inner meditation, first to deal with how we feel about each person who hurt us, learn to unconditionally love; find what hurt them, go beyond the pain, stop hitting others with it.

Oneness unconditionally loves infinitely. :purpleheart::blueheart::greenheart::yellowheart::heart:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Do you have anything better than "soon"?
Do you realize this is literally what the Quran says in chapter 43:60-77, that Christ is here with clear signs to fix everything, and everyone waits for the Fire to burn them.

Soon is before WW3 according to Yeshua, and Isaiah or our real name Yeshayahu (ישׁעיהו) and Yehoshua (יהושׁע); which are versions of the same person, who was symbolically named by Moses, if we take on board reincarnation (Gilgul).

It is like Cassandra warning Troy throughout time, as different characters in books, that these things will soon happen, and unfortunately it appears none will take it seriously; yet at least it shows prophecy is real, and people are Jokers (כסיליהם).

In Greek culture Zan is a spelling of Zeus; so Cassandra was an anagram of our name anyway.

Thus it seems the Fire is in the next few days before War, and then after the age of Godliness, as it is a bit pointless trying to convince people to listen to their own religious texts books.

Plus apparently the Elite's Emperor Trump on Twitter, is more important than an Elohim (Divine Being) as Messiah on Religious Forums. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
how can we trust such when the knowledge around then was hardly above caveman level?
The idea you believe in Caveman theory in the last ten thousand years is silly sorry; we had advanced civilizations before the flood, that built pyramids all over the world.

We then had entheogen assisted cultures like the Land of Mu, Bon (Tibetan), Egyptian, Greek, etc which were highly educated, and now in this modern times, people are dumbed down by chemicals in their diets on purpose.
like love one another
Moses sets up a Curse (Deuteronomy 28), where it says the people will eventually not listen to the things of the Source of reality (God); so they will go against murdering their own Messiah (Zechariah 11, Isaiah 52:10-14 - Isaiah 53:1-11), and then choose their own Leaders.

Then a Holy Fire will come (Deuteronomy 29:19-27) where Yeshua sets the Snare, as people don't listen properly (Deuteronomy 32:15-22).

The idea we see that the Children of Israel suffered for the last two thousand years what Moses stated, means the next bit is inevitable, and it is only a lack of study that leads people not to be aware of how concise it all is.

Rabbinic Judaism (Zionism) according to the Curse is exactly opposite to the truth (Deuteronomy 31:24-29, Deuteronomy 28:28-29, Zechariah 12:4); so the world is currently upside down on purpose, before they try to start WW3.

If Rabbinic Judaism accepted Messianic prophecy on Religious Forums, there are other potentialities.

The worst bit of what you just stated, is the Gospel of John is made up to catch out the hypocrites, and Yeshua didn't actually say "Love One Another"...

Yeshua taught we're down near Hell in Judaism (Matthew 23:15, Matthew 23:33), and to love Source first with both eyes (Matthew 6:22-24); then to unconditionally love people (Matthew 22:37-40), as they are evil since we're down near Hell (Matthew 7:11), so matter corrupts us (Matthew 6:19-21).
it's called bias.
Try actually questioning independently, before accusing everyone religious of being bias. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
The idea you believe in Caveman theory in the last ten thousand years is silly sorry; we had advanced civilizations before the flood, that built pyramids all over the world.

Perhaps a little colloquial but essentially they didn't know much at all - about the human body, about the human mind, about the life around them and the life that inhabited their own bodies, about the stars and associated planets, about the laws of nature, about how long the universe had existed - one could go on, but apparently some of the wise got instructions (from above) detailing stuff that was just too important not to mention rather than any of these things. Unless of course one was to interpret anything written how one chose - which is what I see here. And has been the case ever since these things have been written down - interpretation upon interpretation.

You have a funny notion of 'advanced civilisation'. :oops:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
In Isaiah 13:10 it states that the sun to be darkened is the constellation Orion, which according to mainstream media will soon go supernova; which fits the prophecies where the fire will burn our faces in that day (Isaiah 13:8).

The debate is do we realize we have little time left before Judgement Day, and then after the Messianic Age?

In my opinion. :innocent:
If the prophecy is so clear, why were you only able to identify it after the fact?
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
In Isaiah 13:10 it states that the sun to be darkened is the constellation Orion, which according to mainstream media will soon go supernova; which fits the prophecies where the fire will burn our faces in that day (Isaiah 13:8).

The debate is do we realize we have little time left before Judgement Day, and then after the Messianic Age?

In my opinion. :innocent:
Prophecy : Many false prophets will arise and mislead many. - Jesus (Matthew 24:11)
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
Context is everything, you'd make such a good investigator, if you dealt with details a little more.

Not everyone dies at Judgement Day; just the argumentative stubborn demons that don't belong in this realm, and should be kicked out.

Everyone has been tested by religious textual observations over thousands of years, to see who is worthy, under many stress tests.

Teaching people they can survive by studying the wisdom is simple; if people weren't only argumentative externally.

In my opinion. :innocent:
Ultimately, it is my 100% honest belief and surety (call it the universe giving me this information - that would seem to jive better with YOUR expectations of what constitutes good reasons to believe things, wouldn't it?) that you will be proven wrong by the simple progression of time.
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
Context is everything, you'd make such a good investigator, if you dealt with details a little more.

Not everyone dies at Judgement Day; just the argumentative stubborn demons that don't belong in this realm, and should be kicked out.

Everyone has been tested by religious textual observations over thousands of years, to see who is worthy, under many stress tests.

Teaching people they can survive by studying the wisdom is simple; if people weren't only argumentative externally.

In my opinion. :innocent:
Also, I'd like you to note that you decided to reply to the "all must die" portion, which is, admittedly, hyperbolic and easily dismissed by saying exactly as you have - that it is not "all" that must die. Very clever of you.

However, you didn't even touch the part where I caught you stating "sons of perdition who say 'the time is near'….". You ARE stating that "the time is near," are you not? I understand exactly why you dodged this piece. Do you? I'd bet you do.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Prophecy : Many false prophets will arise and mislead many. - Jesus (Matthew 24:11)
This is a silly mistake many make, like they take a verse to accuse the Messiah, and forget it is our words, plus they miss all the context provided.

Matthew 24:42-51 watch therefore, for you don’t know in what hour your Lord comes.

Matthew 25:1-13 is the wise and foolish virgins meeting Christ at the Midnight Hour in the Sky, on the Clouds speaking on lightning, which is the internet.

In Luke 17:22-37 it shows that Christ comes back, is rejected by everyone in Luke 17:25, and then the Fire and Brimstone comes in Luke 17:37; which is a reference to the Lake of Fire 'vultures gathered' in Isaiah 34:15.

In Revelation 19:12 it tells us Christ has a new name only he knows, our name is Zanda or Zan for short, and since 4-5 years old, I've known prophetically our name is in the world's religious texts as one.

Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar (Sandalphon) in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God (Zion - Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7), the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name (Sananda).

In Hebrew Zan is the Flock of Israel, and Zion is often used poetically as David's Flock (ציון ▬ צאן).

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
We can prove I'm here as Christ before Judgement Day as prophesied; not sure why people keep saying 'when Christ comes', and ignoring all the evidence presented from all the world's religious text on the forum.

I don't accept "the world's religious text" as particularly authoritative or trustworthy, so that probably wouldn't do for me. Plus I don't know you, you're completely anonymous here, so I don't know how anyone would confirm any personal details about you. Can you perform miracles? Here, teleport over to my house right now and we can have a cup of coffee together and talk about it.

In Revelation 14:10-12 is the Supernova, with the Fire and Brimstone that shall burn the earth, and as the Archangel/Messiah sent before it, I'm saying it is soon (Deuteronomy 32).

In my opinion. :innocent:

Cool, how soon? Watchman thinks it's before the end of the month, you?
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
that you will be proven wrong by the simple progression of time.
Lets look at equations of where being told things prophetically doesn't always have a timeline.

At 5-6 years old, I was told by the Source of reality, Yeshua didn't go around saying "I Am" statements, and the world has been deceived by it...

Regardless of discussing the contradictions of John, Paul, and Simon; Yeshua warned in all 3 Synoptic Gospels about this.

Mark 13:5-6, Matthew 24:4-5, Luke 21:8 He said, “Watch out that you don’t get led astray, for many will come in my name, saying, "I Am (G1473 G1510)" and "The time is at hand". Therefore don’t follow them."

At 21 years old at the fulfilment of Revelation 10, I was told that Yeshua came to set a Snare (Isaiah 8:11-22); I'm now aware of how I'm here before Judgement day in Isaiah 28:11-13, explaining the Bed of Adultery (Isaiah 28:9-19), which is stated in Isaiah 28:20-21...

In Revelation 2:22 is the closure of the Bed of Adultery, with those who don't understand it not surviving the Great Tribulation soon.
I caught you stating "sons of perdition who say 'the time is near'….". You ARE stating that "the time is near," are you not?
The Son of Perdition is a stupid concept by the Pharisees & Hadiths, that there will exists a Son of the Devil; what they've done though is to demonize the Christ without realizing it.

I'm not stating the Time is Near, the mainstream news around us predicts that; I'm just reminding people what religious texts say comparatively to the events taking place, as prophesied before the End of Time.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Watchman thinks it's before the end of the month, you?
It seems soon based on all the prophecies, thus who needs dates, when we have data from some of the most advanced minds in human history.
"Yeh, they say its mass has rapidly decreased, implying at some point it will soon pop...."

You didn't get that from "studying Scripture" or being Christ. You got it from reading an article like everyone else.
Lol, that is comical just make up my history.

Used to be on the 2012 forums explaining Biblical contradictions at the time, due to not being sure if the Mayan calendar is accurate with our current date.

I was told before I can remember the Tribulation will happen in my life time, I've then studied lots to question what others have thought; to dismiss things without examination is illogical.

My statement in 2012 was correct, and now it has just increased in potentiality.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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