Do we Realize Isaiah 13:10 Prophesied Betelgeuse Will go Supernova?

[SkepticThinker]

Since we can prove I was sent from Heaven as the Messiah, with our name across many of the world's religious texts; it would be really crazy to ignore so much data to be honest.

Uhhh, what?

Thus we're not waiting for a second coming, I'm literally sitting here asking people to accept it for 15 years now, and soon the end comes.

In my opinion.

So what's your definition of "soon?"
I'm guessing it's more than 15 years?

 

[Left Coast]

I know.

All the articles about it say that.

We probably have another 100,000 years before Betelgeuse goes supernova .

We probably have another 100,000 years before an asteroid hits us.

We probably have another 100,000 years before an earthquake hits us.

Hello?

They put that in there so that you won't find it too spooky to finish reading the rest of the article and enjoy the rest of the advertisements.

But what did you think, how did it make you feel, when you read how much it had dimmed since just October 2019?

It "has now fallen from its perch as the ninth brightest star in the night sky, all the way down to number 23.​

This dimming that we see is 640 year old light getting here.

They get dim just before they explode.

It's going to be a riot whet it first appears.

It's just going to appear in the sky.

Most will not know what it is.

There will be no warning.

What the hell is THAT?

"And there shall be signs in the sun,
and in the moon,
and in the stars; - Luke 21:25​

This guy says for two weeks, or two months.

You're making sh*t up.

The dimming of Betelgeuse has had absolutely zero impact on my life. If and when the light from Betelgeuse's supernova reaches Earth, if it does so in my lifetime, it is highly unlikely to have any significant impact on me. And if it does, we'll know why: because a star went supernova. Not because Jesus is coming back to Earth, or any other silly nonsense reinterpreted from the Bible.

 

[Spirit of Light]

The difference between the doctor and mental patient, is one has the data.

Since we can show you're making stuff up, and don't actually justify a legitimate case; whereas from many of the world's religious texts, we can literally prove my name is in them here before Judgement Day, as I was told at 4-5 years old by the Source of reality, before studying any texts...

This is like some crazy person in a mental asylum on death row, claiming the person who comes in with a white robe to help them, is mental for trying.

In my opinion.

Wizanda, may I ask a question since you often go back to your memory of when you were young, and you mention the one who told you who you are or suppose to be, Honestly I don't know the truth or false of your story. But do you remember what name of this person, being, angel or what it was that told you about the story where they say you are a savior in the last days?
If you remember the name it might clarify a lot to many who disbelieve you

 

[wizanda]

Unless you think 100,000 years from now is soon?

As an Archangel, and Messiah who has known I'm sent from Heaven before the Great Tribulation from my earliest memories, some date guestimated by humans isn't as advanced as the Source of reality sending me before it.

Uhhh, what?

Those were links to huge threads explaining it in detail.

So what's your definition of "soon?"
I'm guessing it's more than 15 years?

Hopefully in the next short space of time, as I'm bored of debating religious people down near Hell, who don't want to listen, and since Trump plans on starting WW3 soon, preferably it happens before it; like in the next few days (Matthew 24:22).

In my opinion.

 

[SkepticThinker]

As an Archangel, and Messiah who has known I'm sent from Heaven before the Great Tribulation from my earliest memories, some date guestimated by humans isn't as advanced as the Source of reality sending me before it.

So 100,000 years is soon, or it's not ... ? Or you're saying we have the dates wrong and it's much sooner than 100,000 years? Can you demonstrate any of that?

Sorry, but I don't believe you are a messianic archangel sent from Heaven. Honestly, it sounds made up.

Those were links to huge threads explaining it in detail.

Sorry, I don't buy it.

Hopefully in the next short space of time, as I'm bored of debating religious people down near Hell, who don't want to listen, and since Trump plans on starting WW3 soon, preferably it happens before it; like in the next few days (Matthew 24:22).

In my opinion.

Okay, so we've gone from 100,000 years from now to "in the next few days." ?? That's how far scientists are off in their timeframe here, is it?

Sorry, but this amounts to a lot of nonsense, in my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

But do you remember what name of this person, being, angel or what it was that told you about the story where they say you are a savior in the last days?

The Source of reality said it, and the Divine Council informed me, which I'm a part of.

Yet I'm not here to save anyone, I'm here as the warrior of God to avenge the death of our saints at Judgement Day; this is just a reminder to explain where people are evil, and didn't already listen to the prophets or even the Messiah, down near Hell before their destruction.

The Source also told me at 5-6 years old, people were not going to listen, and that it was a waste of time me trying; which I now know after years of study, is also predicted in the texts.

I can't change the events, I can however remove people from the Lamb's Book of Life, and this has been a great exercise in getting to know where people are demonic down here.

Like Yeshua prophesied, first the Angels come into the Harvest to bind the Tares, before they're burned in the Fire.

In my opinion.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The Source of reality said it, and the Divine Council informed me, which I'm a part of.

Yet I'm not here to save anyone, I'm here as the warrior of God to avenge the death of our saints at Judgement Day; this is just a reminder to explain where people are evil, and didn't already listen to the prophets or even the Messiah, down near Hell before their destruction.

The Source also told me at 5-6 years old, people were not going to listen, and that it was a waste of time me trying; which I now know after years of study, is also predicted in the texts.

I can't change the events, I can however remove people from the Lamb's Book of Life, and this has been a great exercise in getting to know where people are demonic down here.

Like Yeshua prophesied, first the Angels come into the Harvest, to bind the Tares before they're burned in the Fire.

In my opinion.

Okay, so if you are in fact, a messianic archangel sent from the heavens, you should be able to demonstrate say, the existence of demons to us poor ignorant little peons, right?
Can you show me one?

 

[Dave Watchman]

How stupid. Within 24hrs, everyone on the planet who can read, or who has a mobile phone, will know exactly what it is. Apart from congenital idiots, I suppose.

I know, but not everyone is as smart as you and me.

Picture people outside at night.

The people sitting on that Ferris wheel, drinking beer, looking at the night sky, right as the supernova light from Betelgeuse appears.

It's going to be spooky for some.

This will be a one time event, right?

I still think many will consider the possibility of a deeper significance.

This is ridiculous. Supernovae are going off all across our, and other, galaxies all the time. Why should one arbitrary star becoming a supernova have huge significance, suddenly? And why did the similar supernova in 1054 NOT presage the 2nd Coming?

Because it wasn't time then.

We were in the wrong prophetic time period.

1054 and the Dragon was still chasing the woman.

"But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” - Daniel 12:4​

This looks a lot like people, desperate to justify belief in an imminent 2nd Coming, force-fitting information that happens to be to hand into their belief scheme.

We saw His star in the east.

The wise men knew that it was time.

“Where is he who has been born king of the Jews? For we saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” - Matthew 2:2​

The only way that they could have known about His first Visitation, is through Daniel's 70 week prophecy.

That enigmatic language of 62 weeks, and 7 weeks until Messiah the Prince.

From the going forth of the command to restore Jerusalem.

They knew that it was the time.

To be watching for Messiah the Prince.

These men were probably the great grand children of the Magicians and Sages that Daniel saved from death.

“The word from me is firm: if you do not make known to me the dream and its interpretation, you shall be torn limb from limb, and your houses shall be laid in ruins. - Daniel 2:5
​

 

[wizanda]

Okay, so we've gone from 100,000 years from now to "in the next few days." ?? That's how far scientists are off in their timeframe here, is it?

Science literally has no clue, we've not monitored a sun going super nova; so they have no idea, they are completely guessing, with no way to measure any of it.

On the other hand, it could have already exploded, and the Source of reality sent me just before it; with my name in religious texts globally, for people to question the time is soon.

I'm not giving some precise date, I've been sent with vast amounts of data for someone to become wise enough to be immortal before it happens, and people do not listen properly.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

Okay, so if you are in fact, a messianic archangel sent from the heavens, you should be able to demonstrate say, the existence of demons to us poor ignorant little peons, right?
Can you show me one?

People are demons, try looking in the mirror...

We're down near Hell, the religious leaders have lied to everyone about what the texts says; we're actually on the top floor of Hell according to most data.

In my opinion.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

If I'm sent before Judgement Day, and ultimately the Source of reality creates reality to a mathematical precision of 100%, why would we assume it's timing is off?

Because REALITY and THE FACTS that we are able to observe state that you are wrong. This stuff happening within your lifetime is not possible given REALITY AS IT PRESENTS ITSELF.

Now... you can go and start saying that "Well... The Source can do MAGIC, so the timing can be whenever The Source wants." But let's face it! You CHOSE Betelgeuse because you thought it was going to go Supernova "soon" and you mis-interpreted "soon" to mean it would happen within your relatively meager lifetime. Just admit it!

But don't you dare be surprised when I point out what are currently FACTS based on known, verifiable reality, and you go and rebut with "MAGIC," and I call you an abject joke. Surprise on your part at that point is just further hammering nails in coffins.

https://www.religiousforums.com/thr...eligious-strangers.228353/page-2#post-6453284

Plus you asked for us to be deleted, stop moaning when you get what you ask for.

Um... this is all about me telling you exactly how wrong you are about the "facts" you keep spouting off. I'm not "getting what I asked for." And I am NOT "moaning." I know you'd like to characterize this as me just complaining about stuff... but this is about showing you that YOU ARE WRONG. You're wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You have your head up your butt, and will not listen to reason. Your HEAD is up your BUTT. Get it out, clean out your crap-filled ears and LISTEN UP.

My earliest memories are of visions of the Tribulation in my life time, at 4-5 years old knew advanced details about the Bible, at 15 was told by the Source of reality what will soon happen, and asked to read the religious texts, etc.

I don't care. Literally. I do not care. People who do mushrooms have visions they claim are "mystical experiences." Don't care about that either, and for EXACTLY the same reasons.

The Bible is one version of the same narrative prophesied in many of the world's religious texts; I was told this first hand, and then have correlated it by many of the religious texts to be sure it is real.

Then YOU have warrant to believe this. But that's the extent of it. YOU. YOU had the first-hand experience. Not anyone else... YOU. And you literally can't share it with anyone, and your evidence is in such a poor, incomprehensible state that you're doomed to fail if this is, indeed, your "life's mission" given to you by "The Source."

Also... I was actually here, on this site, many years ago (more than 10), and you were around as well. The stuff you were talking was markedly different than what you go through trying to explain now. Care to explain why that is? I should go dig up some stuff... but from what I remember, "The Source" and this matrix-like "simulation" idea weren't what you were all about back then. I may be mistaken - I'll have to go look if I ever work up enough interest to give a crap. But the question that would raise is, if you were given all this info back when you were 5/15/whatever, how did the stories change over the last 10+ years?

 

[Spirit of Light]

The Source of reality said it, and the Divine Council informed me, which I'm a part of.

Yet I'm not here to save anyone, I'm here as the warrior of God to avenge the death of our saints at Judgement Day; this is just a reminder to explain where people are evil, and didn't already listen to the prophets or even the Messiah, down near Hell before their destruction.

The Source also told me at 5-6 years old, people were not going to listen, and that it was a waste of time me trying; which I now know after years of study, is also predicted in the texts.

I can't change the events, I can however remove people from the Lamb's Book of Life, and this has been a great exercise in getting to know where people are demonic down here.

Like Yeshua prophesied, first the Angels come into the Harvest to bind the Tares, before they're burned in the Fire.

In my opinion.

First of all, I do not see you as an enlightened being, or divine,
And the Divine Council is said to be a group of divine beings. who rules over parts of the earth. (if you were a part of it, how did you not know the info from birth? since you would have to prepare this before you come as a heavenly being.

Divine Council - Wikipedia
The Old Testament description of the "divine assembly" all suggest that this metaphor for the organization of the divine world was consistent with that of Mesopotamia and Canaan. One difference, however, should be noted. In the Old Testament, the identities of the members of the assembly are far more obscure than those found in other descriptions of these groups, as in their polytheistic environment. Israelite writers sought to express both the uniqueness and the superiority of their God Yahweh.[1]

When you say the source, do you mean God as in Yahweh? or do you not know who you spoke with?

One other thing that makes it difficult to understand you and/or believe you are all the information you give that does not go together or even contradict each other from time to time. So I can understand those who think you make it all up, even make it up to get attention.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Science literally has no clue, we've not monitored a sun going super nova; so they have no idea, they are completely guessing, with no way to measure any of it.

On the other hand, it could have already exploded, and the Source of reality sent me just before it; with my name in religious texts globally, for people to question the time is soon.

I'm not giving some precise date, I've been sent with vast amounts of data for someone to become wise enough to be immortal before it happens, and people do not listen properly.

That sounds spooky man.

Congratulations on an interesting thread.

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Who calmed the sea
Take a look at yourself
And you can look at others differently
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My momma taught me how to pray
Before I reached the age of seven
When I'm down on my knees
That's when I'm closest to heaven
Daddy lived his life, two kids and a wife
Well you do what you must do
But he showed me enough of what it takes
To get me through, oh yeh!

Put your hand in the hand of the man
Who stilled the water
Put your hand in the hand of the man
Who calmed the sea
Take a look at yourself
And you can look at others differently
Put your hand in the hand of the man
From Galilee
Oh yeh!

Put your hand in the hand of the man
Who stilled the water
Put your hand in the hand of the man
Who calmed the sea
Take a look at yourself
And you can look at others differently
Put your hand in the hand of the man
From Galilee
Oh yeh!

Put your hand in the hand of the man
Who stilled the water
Put your hand in the hand of the man
Who calmed the sea
Take a look at yourself
And you can look at others differently
Put your hand in the hand of the man
From Galilee
Oh yeh!
Put your hand in the hand of the man from Galilee
Put your hand in the hand of the man from Galilee, Oh yeh!

 

[SkepticThinker]

Science literally has no clue, we've not monitored a sun going super nova; so they have no idea, they are completely guessing, with no way to measure any of it.

Hmm, well, they certainly are able to provide a lot more information about it than you are.

2007:
NASA - NASA's Chandra Sees Brightest Supernova Ever
2009:
Super-sized Supernova: Scientists Observe Largest Exploding Star Yet Seen
2019:
Supernova observation first of its kind using NASA satellite: Data offer new clues about why stars explode

Sounds like science has more of a clue than you do.

Gee, you'd think a messianic archangel sent from the heavens might have been aware that supernovas have been observed before.

On the other hand, it could have already exploded, and the Source of reality sent me just before it; with my name in religious texts globally, for people to question the time is soon.

I'm not giving some precise date, I've been sent with vast amounts of data for someone to become wise enough to be immortal before it happens, and people do not listen properly.

In my opinion.

Okay, so you really don't know anything anybody else isn't presently aware of.

Odd, that you won't give a date, given the "vast amounts of data" you are supposedly in possession of.

 

[SkepticThinker]

People are demons, try looking in the mirror...

Okay, I did. All I see is a human.
Are you telling me I'm a demon?

We're down near Hell, the religious leaders have lied to everyone about what the texts says; we're actually on the top floor of Hell according to most data.

In my opinion.

I guess that's where LalaLand is.

 

[Vinayaka]

Odd, that you won't give a date, given the "vast amounts of data" you are supposedly in possession of.

Several years back there was a member that gave a date. He kept warning everyone here. What did change on that date was that he stopped posting. Go figure.

 

[PruePhillip]

People's ability to make ancient (especially Biblical) prophecies relevant to their current circumstances seems infinitely creative.

Certainly seems "creative"
In the 1800's the idea of Jews going back to the desert and swamps
of the Turkish controlled Muslim backwater of Palestine and creating
a new Jewish state was laughed at.
And the idea that the churches would fall in the Christian West was
also risible. But these two events were prophesized in the bible. The
second return of the Jews was written about often - even before there
was the first return of the Jews.

 

[exchemist]

I know, but not everyone is as smart as you and me.

Picture people outside at night.

The people sitting on that Ferris wheel, drinking beer, looking at the night sky, right as the supernova light from Betelgeuse appears.

It's going to be spooky for some.

This will be a one time event, right?

I still think many will consider the possibility of a deeper significance.

Because it wasn't time then.

We were in the wrong prophetic time period.

1054 and the Dragon was still chasing the woman.

"But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” - Daniel 12:4​

We saw His star in the east.

The wise men knew that it was time.

“Where is he who has been born king of the Jews? For we saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” - Matthew 2:2​

The only way that they could have known about His first Visitation, is through Daniel's 70 week prophecy.

That enigmatic language of 62 weeks, and 7 weeks until Messiah the Prince.

From the going forth of the command to restore Jerusalem.

They knew that it was the time.

To be watching for Messiah the Prince.

These men were probably the great grand children of the Magicians and Sages that Daniel saved from death.

“The word from me is firm: if you do not make known to me the dream and its interpretation, you shall be torn limb from limb, and your houses shall be laid in ruins. - Daniel 2:5
​

That "Ferris wheel" is the London Eye and I guarantee you 98% of the people on it would have mobile phones and would find out, within minutes, what it is, if it were to happen tomorrow. So no, for them it will not have any "deeper significance".

However it is highly unlikely it will happen in the lifetime of the London Eye, seeing as all we know is that it may happen some time in the next hundred centuries.

 

[exchemist]

The Source of reality said it, and the Divine Council informed me, which I'm a part of.

Yet I'm not here to save anyone, I'm here as the warrior of God to avenge the death of our saints at Judgement Day; this is just a reminder to explain where people are evil, and didn't already listen to the prophets or even the Messiah, down near Hell before their destruction.

The Source also told me at 5-6 years old, people were not going to listen, and that it was a waste of time me trying; which I now know after years of study, is also predicted in the texts.

I can't change the events, I can however remove people from the Lamb's Book of Life, and this has been a great exercise in getting to know where people are demonic down here.

Like Yeshua prophesied, first the Angels come into the Harvest to bind the Tares, before they're burned in the Fire.

In my opinion.

OK, that's enough of this deranged nonsense for me.

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[Left Coast]

Certainly seems "creative"
In the 1800's the idea of Jews going back to the desert and swamps
of the Turkish controlled Muslim backwater of Palestine and creating
a new Jewish state was laughed at.
And the idea that the churches would fall in the Christian West was
also risible. But these two events were prophesized in the bible. The
second return of the Jews was written about often - even before there
was the first return of the Jews.

There's enough prophecy in the Bible that you can fit just about any historical event into it: the Jews win, the Jews lose, the Church wins, the Church loses. All combinations are there, depending where you want to look. So you can find "fulfillment of prophecy" no matter what actually happens. That's the genius of the sales pitch.