Do we Realize Isaiah 13:10 Prophesied Betelgeuse Will go Supernova?

[wizanda]

In Isaiah 13:10 it states that the sun to be darkened is the constellation Orion, which according to mainstream media will soon go supernova; which fits the prophecies where the fire will burn our faces in that day (Isaiah 13:8).

The debate is do we realize we have little time left before Judgement Day, and then after the Messianic Age?

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

In Isaiah 13:10 it states that the sun to be darkened is the constellation Orion, which according to mainstream media will soon go supernova; which fits the prophecies where the fire will burn our faces in that day (Isaiah 13:8).

The debate is do we realize we have little time left before Judgement Day, and then after the Messianic Age?

In my opinion.

Isaiah 13:10 says
For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

My question becomes. Where in this quote from Isaiah 13:10 does it say Constellation of Orion?
It could be as easy as the sky above earth is filled with smoke from the fire, or it could be other substances that are in the air that blocks the light from the human view o earth.
But i do not understand why you see it as Orion's belt? wherein the text does it say this? Or is that your own interpretation of the text?

Do I believe our existence is about to come to an end? Yes
And the reason is that scriptures call this time we are in Dharma ending period or Fa-rectification
It means existence as we know it today will end, but it will look like a natural catastrophe from a human view. and many will not understand it to be the end of time.

 

[SalixIncendium]

In Isaiah 13:10 it states that the sun to be darkened is the constellation Orion, which according to mainstream media will soon go supernova; which fits the prophecies where the fire will burn our faces in that day (Isaiah 13:8).

Where in the Bible are the words Betelgeuse and Orion?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Do I believe our existence is about to come to an end? Yes

What do you mean by "existence?" Human existence or existence as a whole?

 

[dybmh]

The debate is do we realize we have little time left before Judgement Day, and then after the Messianic Age?

Time is an illusion.

There is no before.
There is no after.
There is only now.

 

[wizanda]

My question becomes. Where in this quote from Isaiah 13:10 does it say Constellation of Orion?

H3685
כְּסִיל
kesı̂yl
kes-eel'
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Or is that your own interpretation of the text?

Why would you assume something is illogical; as a Bodhisattva our name means exegesis (Zand)...

There is always evidence, we just need to be more patient and ask, before we assume; which is where I get annoyed when people don't ask, yet simply argue what they don't understand.

In my opinion.

 

[dybmh]

And the reason is that scriptures call this time we are in Dharma ending period or Fa-rectification

I think it would be more accurate to specify which scriptures you are referring to here.

 

[Spirit of Light]

H3685
כְּסִיל
kesı̂yl
kes-eel'
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Why would you assume something is illogical; as a Bodhisattva our name means exegesis (Zand)...

There is always evidence, we just need to be more patient and ask, before we assume; which is where I get annoyed when people don't ask, yet simply argue what they don't understand.

In my opinion.

Did I argue? I am sure both my questions were questions and not an argument for something?

 

[dybmh]

H3685
כְּסִיל
kesı̂yl
kes-eel'
The same as H3684

Question: Are u saying H3684 = H3685? For me, this would contradict logic.

 

[wizanda]

Where in the Bible are the words Betelgeuse and Orion?

Every other time the word kesı̂yl (H3685) is used in the text it is translated as Orion (Job 9:9, Job 38:31, Amos 5:8, Joshua).

In Isaiah 13:10 because it is a third person plural, they've translated it as Constellations; rather than 'and the constellations within Orion shall not give its light'.

Betelgeuse isn't a from the Hebrew, it is from Arabic originally, and then translated....

Betelgeuse is the Right Arm of Orion, so when it says the Lord's Right Arm shall do mighty things, this could be quite literally, as the Fire is said to scorch earth from the sun.

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I think it would be more accurate to specify which scriptures you are referring to here.

In Falu Gong, Fa-rectification can be read about here
Essentials for Further Advancement II

In Buddhism Dharma ending period is when Sakyamuni's teaching no longer has its true meaning intact about 2000 after his passing, I did not find the Sutta for this right now

 

[wizanda]

Question: Are u saying H3684 = H3685? For me, this would contradict logic.

That was from Strongs, and we know it is stupid at times... I'm not aware of the cross referencing in meanings between the words yet, it will take me time to study.

Thank you for asking the question, I'd like to understand how or why the Hebrew word for Orion (H3585) means the same as H3684.

H3684
כְּסִיל
kesı̂yl
kes-eel'
From H3688; properly fat, that is, (figuratively) stupid or silly: - fool (-ish).

In my opinion.

 

[dybmh]

That was from Strongs, and we know it is stupid at times... I'm not aware of the cross referencing in meanings between the words yet, it will take me time to study.

Thank you for asking the question, I'd like to understand how or why the Hebrew word for Orion (H3585) means the same as H3684.

H3684
כְּסִיל
kesı̂yl
kes-eel'
From H3688; properly fat, that is, (figuratively) stupid or silly: - fool (-ish).

In my opinion.

OK.

I'll see if I can find something on this...

 

[wizanda]

Did I argue? I am sure both my questions were questions and not an argument for something?

I'm trying to rectify that you keep liking posts that are challenging me for things nonsensical, that you assume me to be the one limited in understanding, etc...

The phrase of what was written, was precisely written to remove edges, and try to ask you to question it; it didn't accuse, you often see it that way, and then I'm like why are you over reacting.

Your questions were fine, try to understand I'm trying to raise you up, not put others down in the slightest; I've come down to Hell as an archangel, I hate it down here as many people are mean...

Yet I will always try my hardest to share light, and unconditionally love regardless of consequences; to the point they crucified us last time, for sharing wisdom.

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm trying to rectify that you keep liking posts that are challenging me for things nonsensical, that you assume me to be the one limited in understanding, etc...

The phrase of what was written, was precisely written to remove edges, and try to ask you to question it; it didn't accuse, you often see it that way, and then I'm like why are you over reacting.

Your questions were fine, try to understand I'm trying to raise you up, not put others down in the slightest; I've come down to Hell as an archangel, I hate it down here as many people are mean...

Yet I will always try my hardest to share light, and unconditionally love regardless of consequences; to the point they crucified us last time, for sharing wisdom.

In my opinion.

Wizanda: Do not try to raise me up as you put it. That is only to me to do by cultivating my mind and body through Falun Gong, If I was following you and saw you as a teacher then yes you would give me true teaching, But as a Falun Gong practitioner, I do only follow one path. The only teaching I listen to is Falun Dafa and Master Li Hongzhi
And no i do not see you as my teacher or master

 

[Revoltingest]

In Isaiah 13:10 it states that the sun to be darkened is the constellation Orion, which according to mainstream media will soon go supernova; which fits the prophecies where the fire will burn our faces in that day (Isaiah 13:8).

The debate is do we realize we have little time left before Judgement Day, and then after the Messianic Age?

In my opinion.

To urge repentance using fear,
they say the end is very near.
But then they must
their date adjust
to float so that it's never here.

 

[wizanda]

What do you mean by "existence?" Human existence or existence as a whole?

Our current existence is about to change dramatically, and many who are not at the levels of wisdom required, will simply no longer exist according to the texts globally.

Much of human existence shall no longer exist, and we shall be more like angels here on earth for infinity after; where the fire in a day, shall cleanse all the demons from this realm down near Hell.
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In my opinion.

 

[Harel13]

H3685
כְּסִיל
kesı̂yl
kes-eel'
The same as H3684; any notable constellation; specifically Orion (as if a burly one): - constellation, Orion.

Interesting interpretation. While Ksil means both an ignorant person and a certain star or constellation, there's a disagreement whether it refers to Orion or to a different constellation. Some say it may be the Little Dipper.

 

[wizanda]

If I was following you and saw you as a teacher then yes you would give me true teaching

And no i do not see you as my teacher or master

As an archangel down here before Judgement Day, I'm not looking for followers, and literally what I'm saying from the world's religions is beyond any of the most advanced human minds; even as an archangel in human form I struggle to maintain all forms of yoga, and all 13 dimensions continuously.

As part of the creation team of reality I'm not playing around getting followers, I'm here saying good bye to humanity, and at the same time offering out free understanding before everyone's destruction (Revelation 3:18)... You're entitled to believe what you wish.

Please note: No one can follow me, we can only accept the Source is One, and understand everything in reality comes from it.

Do not try to raise me up as you put it.

We're near Hell, which means most people down here are evil in some way, their general reason for doing things is selfish motivation; my reason is to stop everyone being destroyed, and to help raise them up from down near Hell.

There is no way I'd deliberately state things to be mean or to push you further into Hell; going opposite to us helping can lead there though, as I'm literally offering light from the world's religions as One.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

Some say it may be the Little Dipper.

I'm going to do more research today, as we need to be more precise...

What is interesting about Orion, and lots of the symbolism, is it makes a big Z in the sky; which is my symbol, has a numerical value of 7, and is about to change to that shape.

In my opinion.